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  • #31
    Originally posted by gyrogir
    So you found a foreign man/woman whom you want to bring into the USA and marry. You will need a k-1 visa.
    I met a Chinese woman online, and here is a rough outline of what I had to do and pay to get her (and her son) into the USA. (Current date of this info is 3 January 2009.)

    Note two things here. 1.) In my case, some costs were double for me since I brought her son into the USA and sponsored him too. I will try to point out these extra costs.
    And 2.) most American men naturally pick a much younger woman as their fiancée. My fiancée is only 4 years younger than I am, (46), and I am very happy with her. We are very blessed, and the process and cost were well worth it. (My wife will probably never read this so don’t think I am sugar coating it for her sake or my well being.) It would take too long to explain all the positive points. But here are a few things to consider regarding marrying a much younger woman: she will want a child, and you may feel like you are too old… Also, can you keep her satisfied during the long term? (I’m not just talking about sex.)
    Know this: You will have to sponsor /support her indefinitely, even after divorce, so you better be sure.

    Also, the process may seem complicated, and it is a little complicated and costly, but you can do it without an attorney. A lawyer will, of course, cost you much more, and using a lawyer can actually take longer. (Mistakes, regardless of who makes them, will cost time.) I did the whole thing without an attorney and without paying anyone for help, and my fiancée and I were together in as short of time as possible, (9 months).
    Note that the process is a bunch of red tape for a few good reasons: 1.) It is our government’s responsibility to keep us safe from undesirable immigrants, and 2.) the government is trying to ensure that your fiancée does not become a financial burden to US tax payers.

    Now, the process:
    You have to meet you fiancée in person. You must have proof that you and your fiancée spent time together in the same physical place. Your fiancée is likely to not be able to come to America – the US government will probably not give her a visa to visit, so you will have to go visit her. Go to the US post office or someplace else and apply for your passport. It will cost you about $120. You will receive your passport about two months later. Then you have to bring your passport, (and any other documents they require), to the foreign embassy in the USA to apply for a visa. In my case, the nearest Chinese Embassy was in Houston, and they accepted nothing by mail. Fortunately, there is a service, (and this service is probably common everywhere there is a foreign Embassy in the US); this service will accept your passport and visa application through the mail, and they will walk your visa application through the foreign embassy and mail your passport and visa back to you. I think this service and visa cost me about $160.

    While you are waiting for your passport and visa, send the G-325A forms to your fiancée and have her begin working on these. This document will take some time to complete, especially if your fiancée is not fluent in English. (See below about the G-325A and other forms).

    There is a time limit on your visa, and there is no guarantee you will even get the visa, so never buy plane ticket or pay any other costs until you get the visa in your hand. (This is also true when expecting the k-1 visa further down the process.)

    You can make plans and purchase airfare after you have your passport and visa in your hand. You may save significant money if you book your flight a few weeks out. This will give you time to prepare for your trip. (Try not to get too anxious during any of this process.)

    In my case, I have never been outside of the USA, but going to China was a wonderful and easy experience – I had no problems.
    Keep your receipts, (motel, meals and taxi fare), air fare ticket stubs, etc. Collect anything that can be used to prove that you met your fiancée. Take many photos from various sources, (different cameras if possible). Capture objects and signs in the background that prove you were in her country, together. Smile! Act like you love each other!

    The clock starts ticking after you submit your I-129F form. The I-129F is the application for a k-1 fiancee visa; this is how you will get your fiancée into America. You will want to begin working on this application as soon as you return home from visiting your fiancée. In my case, my fiancée was in America 9 months after I mailed off the I-129F and the other required documents to the USCIS, (Immigration Service).

    Just read the instructions that come with the I-129F. You can get the I-129F form, instructions, and the other forms from the www.uscis.gov website, (click on the “forms” tab). Make sure that you get the latest and up-to-date forms from this website. The USCIS changes these forms from time to time, and they will not accept old expired form formats.

    It might be helpful for yourself and the USCIS agent handling your application if you include a cover letter and table of contents with your I-129F packet.
    At the very least, with your I-129F application you will have to include G-325A forms (biographical info for you and your fiancée); you and your fiancee’s birth certificates, passports, and divorce documents; your visa; child custody papers; proof of your meeting (photos & receipts from your trip), I-134 form (Affidavit of Support), a letter of your intent to marry and support your fiancee; copies of your emails, chat sessions, (maybe text messages & phone bills), letters and packages exchanged, engagement ring, etc.
    Also note that G-325A and other forms may have to be prepared for any children who will accompany your fiancée into America.

    Make at least three copies of the completed I-129F and everything else that you send to the USCIS. Use the “receipt confirmation” service at the post office to ensure that your package gets to the USCIS.
    The USCIS website and I-129F instructions should tell you where to send your I-129F packet. In my case, I sent it to Houston (as directed), and two weeks later I received it back with a letter stating that I had to send it to the Vermont office. (Try not to get mad and kill someone; the entire process will be a very frustrating.)

    A few weeks after you (correctly) mail off the I-129F packet, you will receive a letter, (called a NOA1), which is confirmation that your packet has been received and is waiting attention. Your packet / case will sit idle for a few months before anyone looks at it. Hopefully, you have done everything correctly, else they will send it all back to you after it has sat there for months, and you will have to correct it and send it back again. Remember, this is the federal government you are dealing with, and they have you over a barrel if you know what I mean.

    If everything goes well, a few months later you will receive a Notice of Approval for I-129F, (the NOA2). The USCIS will then send your packet to the NVC (National Visa Center). A few weeks later you will get a letter from the NVC or the US Embassy with a case number and indication that your application has been sent to the US Embassy nearest to your foreign fiancée.

    (Don’t be too worried if the time intervals are longer than I have sated here; it always seems longer when you are living it, and the durations are dependent on the workload these USCIS agents are under. It is very tempting to write emails and letters to the Embassy and the USCIS, but it will do no good – they will just ignore your attempts to contact them and ask questions.)

    (Oh, by-the-way, soon your fiancée (and her kids) will have to travel to the US Embassy for a visa interview, so she should be practicing her English. I don’t think it is a requirement to be able to speak English, but it would be better all the way around if she can. Also consider the extra traveling and per diem cost of her making this trip and the one week stay at the US Embassy.)

    About a month or two after the US Embassy (near your fiancée) receives your I-129F packet, they will send your fiancée a packet of instructions and additional forms. You will likely receive three such packets (or notices) before the actual k-1 visa interview. Follow the instructions. There’s not much you can do ahead of time except get many certified and translated copies of birth certificates, divorce documents, custody papers, passport style photos, etc. The US Embassy will require a criminal background check and other timely documents, but do not get these until notified or they may become out-dated. You will be instructed NOT to sign some of the forms until a specific time and place. You will be instructed to mail some (not all) forms and a checklist back to the US Embassy to indicate that you are ready for the next step / packet.

    You will need to send your fiancée a copy of the entire I-129F packet, (remember I told you to make at least three copies…), and the NOA letters, and everything else, plus some additional info like a family tree sheet, etc. so your fiancée can bring it to the visa interview. See what the Embassy requires and send it to her right away as this will delay the interview date.

    This part was a little confusing because you have to keep track of who the form instructions are written for. For the I-129F, the instructions were written to you, the person who wants to import a foreign spouse. Some of the packets and applications you will encounter now will be addressed to your foreign fiancée, so keep this in mind.

    At this point, your foreign fiancée is collecting the items on the checklist. Do not send the items to the Consulate. Just collect the items and keep them. Send back the checklist and only the other document as instructed in the packet. (I think these are called packet 3 and 4.)

    Eventually, you will be given an interview date. The US Embassy will likely have a specific hotel for your fiancée to stay in. They may even provide an agent to meet your fiancée at the hotel and walk your fiancée through the process. The first order of business is the medical exam from a specific doctor/facility. Of course, they want to be sure that your fiancée is no risk to you and the rest of us in the USA.
    Your fiancée will stay in the US Embassy hotel after the medical examination and the following three day wait before the interview.

    Make sure your fiancée brings EVERYTHING to the interview.

    Any children involved will have to attend the visa interview and receive a medical exam also. These children are called “derivates” and will receive what’s called a k-2 visa. No special forms or procedures are required for the (k-2) children, just mention them where requested in all the forms. Later, after being married, you will have to submit a separate I-485 form for the children. Nevertheless, your fiancée must inquire about the k-2 visa in the checklist phase and during the medical exam and interview.

    In our case, the interview was very short and sweet. The US Embassy was backed up and they did not have the luxury of taking time with my fiancée, which was good because my fiancee’s English was very weak.
    The Embassy will tell you “yea” or “nay” at the completion of the interview, but no visa will be given immediately.
    My fiancée waited in the hotel an extra week to get her visa in hand. The other option is to go back home and wait for the mail to send it. Do you trust the foreign country’s mail service?

    At the very least, your fiancée will be given a visa stamp in her passport and some medical records and possibly other sealed documents to bring with her to America. Do not open these sealed documents, Ever! Some of these documents will be presented to the port-of-entry guards when she steps off the plane in America, and others, (like the sealed X-rays and medical exam), will be given to the Civil Surgeon (doctor) after you are married and she is applying for permanent residency.

    After receiving the visa, the anxiety continues as your fiancee’s prepares to leave her home. She is about to leave everything she has and knows to be with you. Do you deserve that? Are you (and your fiancee) prepared for the homesickness, the cultural shock, boredom and all the other many challenges that will follow. You and her will have to make unusual commitments and consider many things that normal couples need not deal with.

    Mailing her clothes and other possessions will cost. Once in America, it will be at least several months before your fiancée can re-visit her home country (or any other country). But eventually, it will cost to occasionally send your fiancée/spouse back to her native country to visit her mom and dad. (The point is that the cost never stops coming. You better make sure it is worth it. It was/is well worth it to me and my new friends who are and have gone through the same process to be with their foreign spouse. I just hope it is good for you too.)

    Again, don’t buy the plane tickets until she has the visa in her hand and you have discussed all the necessary arrangements and considerations.
    Some foreign fiancée families may insist that you travel to them for a proper wedding in their traditional way.

    Prepare your fiancée for customs and port-of-entry hassles at the airport – it can be a nightmare when considering all the unknowns, other junk and worries your fiancée will have floating around in her head.

    Now, your finacee is in America. You have three months to marry, but you better plan on getting married within two months . (Never wait till the last minute because you never know what will happen.) The k-1 visa requires that you be married within 3 months else she has to return to her home country. (By-the-way, the paperwork does not stop, read on…)
    Two months will give you and your fiancée time to decide if you want to go through with the wedding. If you are a typical American man like me, you didn’t have much of a clue as to what and how to plan for a wedding. (You would think I would know since I was married twice before, but you would be wrong.)
    Also, your fiancée may want, (her family may insist) that you be married in her home country in their traditional way; (more cost). Do this before she arrives in America with her k-1 visa.

    To give you an idea of the cost (as best as I can recall), my foreign wife and I met online one and a half years ago, and we were married a month ago. Her son came with her and is now my step-son. I paid all the cost. In my case, the big ticket items were $4500 on my 8 day trip to China; ~$4000 for my and their airfare to LAX and back to my home state; and the $1010 (time two = $2020) I-485 fee to apply for permanent residency (which I will discuss later.). Other cost which I remember, (I’m sure I have forgot many), were $455 for the I-129F fee; ~$1000 for the interview related stuff; ~$300 for other documents, translations and photos; ~$200 for the Civil Surgeon fee, $350 for passport and visa, and $1 to $25 each time I mailed something. (I sent everything through the US Postal Service – it works for me.) I also sent her $400 each month as support after she gave up her business to make a full time business of preparing documents, etc. to get her visa and prepare to come to America.

    Once you are married and have a certified marriage certificate, you must submit an I-485 form (Status Change to Permanent Residence) and additional forms and documents as instructed in the I-485 instructions. Many of the supporting forms and documents were the same as you included in the I-129F packet, so never throw away anything, and always make extra copies of everything. Beware, the G-325A forms that you sent with the I-129F -- these are needed again, but some info has changed since you and your fiancée are now married, so correct all as necessary.

    Some vaccinations will be required, but do not pay for an additional medical exam! A special doctor called a Civil Surgeon is required to handle the vaccination. You can find a registered certified Civil Surgeon at www.USCIS.gov. Try to talk to this doctor ahead of time to make sure you both understand what is needed. In my case, my (now) wife and step-son received many required vaccinations in their home country. Still, they were required to receive two vaccinations: tet**** and MMR (mumps and measles). Remember, they do not need to re-take a medical examination.

    Also file a I-765 (for work and an ID), and I-131 (for travel). These forms may be needed to receive a social security number and to allow your new wife to travel outside of the USA. Submission of these I-765 & I-131 forms at this time should not cost anything extra, but will cost you if you submit then separately later on.

    I have just send the I-485 packet off to change my wife and step-son’s status to permanent residence so they can stay in the USA. Yes, this is necessary and must be done soon after you marry.
    As I stated before, one of the documents you sent with your signature states that you vow to support your new wife and children even if you get divorced, so beware.

    I am not sure what the next step is, but I think my wife and step-son will receive a green card soon which they will have to renew every so often (which will probably cost more money).
    I’m sure at some point they can pursue becoming naturalized citizens, but I think they may lose their Chinese citizenship by doing so… something to consider.

    I think this is all correct. I am going from memory so don’t hold me to any of this. But this should give you a reasonable idea of what to expect.
    The current date is 3 January 2009.
    Thanks for this post. I am planning to marry a woman from Vietnam and just sent my I-129F packet last week. So I am now waiting for the first reply from the immigrations office. Hopefully everything will be okay.

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    • #32
      good day to all...
      i am new here and i think this forum really helps and gives a lot of info to some doubts i have in mind.
      my fiancee just filed a K-1 visa for me last february 28, 2009 and received a notice two weeks after, telling that the application has been received by the USCIS. we are waiting for the next step, we hope everything will be on time and works smoothly.

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      • #33
        K1 question

        Hi,
        I filed for a K1 in feb 2009, am waiting for a receipt letter from VSC its been about 7 weeks, is this normal?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by nmalik View Post
          Hi,
          I filed for a K1 in feb 2009, am waiting for a receipt letter from VSC its been about 7 weeks, is this normal?
          hi, are you an indian national? you got the same surname with the actor in the movie "slumdog millionare"...anyway, regarding your query, i believe you should have received a notice by this time, it should not take that long (7weeks) for them to receive and file your case.

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          • #35
            I-129F/k-3 veres I130/CR1/IR1

            Can anybody tell me the time line deference between the K-3 veres the IR1/CR1

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            • #36
              Hi mida360,

              I am planning to get my girlfriend from Vietnam to the US as a K1 visa. My question is: do I need to have some documents issued by both the US and the Vietnamese government that prove that I am single? Thanks for your help.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by thomas1119 View Post
                Hi mida360,

                I am planning to get my girlfriend from Vietnam to the US as a K1 visa. My question is: do I need to have some documents issued by both the US and the Vietnamese government that prove that I am single? Thanks for your help.
                well u each will need papers from their respective governments. The US citizen will initiate the process by filing with the USCIS and waiting from them for further instructions.

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                • #38
                  Help-waiting for fiance visa

                  Can somebody help to me...?
                  I have fiance(US citisen) and I will go in US this summer....We want marriage, but first I need back in my homecountry. I would know what is better, marriage while I am in US and home waiting spouse visa, or back home and waiting fiance visa?? What is the faster and easier process????
                  Thanks

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                  • #39
                    spelling mistake

                    hello my wife is about to apply for UK visa to join me in UK on a dependent visa. but in my passport my name spelling is raheel aziz shaikh. but in my wife passport my surname spelling is sheikh, so can any one tell me this minor mistake of spelling will make any difference in application or can we apply under this thing?? waiting for reply

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                    • #40
                      Advise? Help? Approved Petition

                      I would love to discuss or get advice about my case. My fiance and I have been engaged for over a year and we are wanting to get married as soon as possible just like everyone here I'm sure ...
                      Time line
                      May 14th, 2009-sent i-129f
                      August 20th, 2009-Approval of petition
                      August 28th, 2009-received notification from NVC stating our papers had been sent Paris and that my fiance will receive documents that he needs to present at time of interview.
                      September 18th, 2009-called NVC because my fiance has still not received the packet that he's supposed to get.
                      I know every case is a little different but I'd love to know details about the rest of the process in Paris for example what you need so I can start working on the paperwork now. Anyone's fiance from France and had/or is having a similar experience let me know.

                      Questions:
                      He has not received his documents or paperwork should he call the Embassy in Paris and schedule interview or to ask when they are sending the paperwork??
                      How long about does it take from this point because we made a tentative date for December 19th, 2009 to get married it's our goal is this possible?
                      What kind of documents do you need to present when you go for your medical examinations/interview, what can I start working on now? How do I know if I need the affidavit of support form I-134?
                      What kind of questions do they ask you at the interview?
                      What should I avoid or look out for?
                      I love him so much, please help me know what I can do to help get him here as fast as possible, I know everyone else is praying for the same.

                      --Luvlysingr awaiting her fiance whom she loves immensely!

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                      • #41
                        Post-Decision Activity

                        Post-Decision Activity
                        On March 19, 2009, a USCIS office received this case from the State Department with a request that we review it. We will notify you when we complete our review, or if we need something from you. If you move while this case is pending, please use our Change of Address online tool to update your case with your new address or call our customer service center at 1-800-375-5283.

                        For approved applications/petitions, post-decision activity may include USCIS sending notification of the approved application/petition to the National Visa Center or the Department of State. For denied applications/petitions, post-decision

                        WHAT TIME WOULD IT FOR THEM TO ET BACK TO ME?
                        AND HOW WOULD I KNOW IF MY PETITION AS BEEN GRANTED?

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                        • #42
                          need information

                          I am a US citizen and I recently married a Dutch citizen. Does anyone know how long it takes to get them into the US? and the papers I need to file are Form I-129f, I-130 and thats it?

                          and we got married in his country where do I file the papers? I do want to leave them behind and go back to the US and wait for them. that just seems wrong to me that they would make people do that. but I dont know.

                          Please can anyone who has the correct knowledge help us?????????


                          Thanks

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                          • #43
                            EAD Renewal K-3 spouse a(9)

                            I was surprised to find my Employment Authorization card had expired after only a year, when my conditional permanent residency expires after 2 years. Do I need to renew by EAD (employment authorization card) or Is my green card (permanent resident ) sufficient?

                            I have already been working for 5 months after the expiry date of my employment authorization card. I am now between jobs, have applied for unemployment and am about to start working for a new company. Will I need to renew my EAD to a) apply for unemployment benefits and b) start work for a new employer. If so, what is the cost, is it worth paying a lawyer to get involved. I tried renewing eletronically, but there do not accept a(9) renewals.

                            What is the EAD renewal process for a K-3 spouse?
                            Does is cost another $340
                            Do I need to send all the documentation again, like i'm applying for the first time?

                            Your help would be most appreciated.

                            Many thanks,
                            David

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                            • #44
                              I129F extension?

                              Hi all,
                              My approved I129F petition nearly expire. Can I extend? Is there anyone success for the extension? I heard I need to ask the consulate for extension and need to fax/email to the consulate. What are the acceptable reasons for extension? I not yet collect all required documents.
                              Thanks in advance

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                              • #45
                                somebody help please..

                                Hey guys,

                                I will be submitting a form I-129F soon, I was wondering what kind of documents do I need to attach along with the form..and also, how long does it take for USCIS to give you a response regarding to your application..and what happen from there?..please help me guys, I really love my fiancee and I can't wait for her to get here..I would appreciate any kind of help..thanks..

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