Vistor visa extension and travel

**laviramesh** · 09-10-2007, 02:42 PM

My parents got a multiple entry 10 yr visa in the fourth attempt. Thank you immihelp and all others you have posted here.

My parents are visiting me currently, they have come to USA in March and there 6 month stay has ended on Sept 6th. I have applied for an extension in June for another 3 months till Dec 6th. I have applied for extension because even I am planning to visit India to attend my cousin's wedding in Dec and we all wanted to go together. I have received a letter from INS that they have received our extension approval, but I have not heard anything about approval or denial so far. INS center in CA is backl ogged for 3 months.

I am planning to send my parents on an escorted tour of west coast from Thomas Cook in October. If we still do not hear anything by then will my parents have any problems while they are travelling. They will carry the receipt from INS, but will they have any problems as their passports indicate that there visa has expired

Thanks

chennai_123 · 09-10-2007, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by laviramesh

My parents got a multiple entry 10 yr visa in the fourth attempt. Thank you immihelp and all others you have posted here.

My parents are visiting me currently, they have come to USA in March and there 6 month stay has ended on Sept 6th. I have applied for an extension in June for another 3 months till Dec 6th. I have applied for extension because even I am planning to visit India to attend my cousin's wedding in Dec and we all wanted to go together. I have received a letter from INS that they have received our extension approval, but I have not heard anything about approval or denial so far. INS center in CA is backl ogged for 3 months.

I am planning to send my parents on an escorted tour of west coast from Thomas Cook in October. If we still do not hear anything by then will my parents have any problems while they are travelling. They will carry the receipt from INS, but will they have any problems as their passports indicate that there visa has expired

Thanks

Travelling together is NOT A VALID REASON for applying for extension. You will be jeopardizing their 10 year visa if the extension request gets denied and they had stayed past their I-94 date. Their next visit is upto the officer at the POE. I would suggest that your parents leave ASAP. Extensions for visitors are ONLY granted if there are situations beyond one's control (eg medical / family emergency). 6 months is plenty for a visitor. Extension in your case is JUST GROSS ABUSE OF visitor visa.

You said that your parent's visa was rejected 3 times without seeing any documents. I would say that the VOs suspicions about your parent's intention were 1000% correct when he rejected them. One does not need documents to prove the intention. Secondly what did your parent's mention on the DS-156 application form regarding the duration of the visit (3,6 or 9 months). If they had mentioned 9 months, they would'nt have made it to the U.S You tend to blame the system and the VOs but those who are to blame for this mess is NONE OTHER THAN the applicants who got their visas and ABUSE THEM.

And to Mr Peace.

In one of the posts you mentioned about fairness and honesty in the U.S visa system and visas get denied unfairly. Why can't the same honesty and fairness be applied for the applicants also? The more i see it, I would say that the visa process is fair, but the applicants who got their visas and ABUSE THEM are the prime culprits.

Here is the refrence to your post.
http://www.immihelp.com/forum/showthread.php?t=23547

**laviramesh** · 09-10-2007, 04:34 PM

Ok, probably the reasons are trivial.

My understanding is if we have applied for an extension before there I-94 expires then we can legally be in united states until we hear whether the extension is approved or denied.

I have been writing letters to INS and have not heard back and the web link gives no other information. Tried calling, but the automated message says the same thing as web.

So, someone please tell me that my assumption is right that my parents can stay until we hear back.

chennai_123 · 09-10-2007, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by laviramesh

Ok, probably the reasons are trivial.

My understanding is if we have applied for an extension before there I-94 expires then we can legally be in united states until we hear whether the extension is approved or denied.

I have been writing letters to INS and have not heard back and the web link gives no other information. Tried calling, but the automated message says the same thing as web.

So, someone please tell me that my assumption is right that my parents can stay until we hear back.

Your parents are presumed to be in-status while the application is pending, but depending on the outcome can be out-of-status. The problem is that if your parent's extension gets denied, rule 222(g) applies immediately, which can void the visa. But the officer at the POE will make his judgement on their next visit. He has the power to void their visa and send them back if the reason for overstaying is NOT justified. The best thing to do is to have your parents leave NOW.

**laviramesh** · 09-10-2007, 04:54 PM

If their application gets denied usually there is grace period within which they should leave. I will make sure that will happen. Leaving not knowing the outcome especially when they are in-status is not required. They do not know the status because there is a huge backlog. I have seen extensions approved for far more trivial reasons. If the visa gets rejected and they do not leave within that grace period then they would be overstaying and that will never happen in my case.

So, thank you for scaring people and providing incomplete information and not answering what is being asked.

chennai_123 · 09-10-2007, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by laviramesh

If their application gets denied usually there is grace period within which they should leave. I will make sure that will happen. Leaving not knowing the outcome especially when they are in-status is not required. They do not know the status because there is a huge backlog. I have seen extensions approved for far more trivial reasons. If the visa gets rejected and they do not leave within that grace period then they would be overstaying and that will never happen in my case.

So, thank you for scaring people and providing incomplete information and not answering what is being asked.

You are upset bcos u did'nt hear what you wish to hear. What i am saying is the law. Even if they leave within the grace period the officer at the POE has the authority to apply rule 222(g). I hope USCIS cracks down on these fraudulent cases in the interest of genuine visitors. In fact i don't mind thanking the VOs who rejected your parent's visa 3 times. They were DEAD RIGHT on the target. You are a PRIME EXAMPLE of why many genuine visitors get their visa(s) denied by the folks at the US consulates.

Fine go ahead and take the risk, repent in leisure..

**smohanty** · 09-10-2007, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by laviramesh

If their application gets denied usually there is grace period within which they should leave. I will make sure that will happen. Leaving not knowing the outcome especially when they are in-status is not required. They do not know the status because there is a huge backlog. I have seen extensions approved for far more trivial reasons. If the visa gets rejected and they do not leave within that grace period then they would be overstaying and that will never happen in my case.

So, thank you for scaring people and providing incomplete information and not answering what is being asked.

If you are so knowledgeable on the subject of immigration and visas how come your parents were rejected 3 times? And how come you have asked 29 questions about immigration/visas on this forum if you know everything on the subject.

Stop wasting our time asking questions that you know the answer to. And if you "have seen extensions approved for far more trivial reasons" then may be you should go ahead and start another website or forum dedicated to that where every questioner is given exactly the answers they want to hear and not advice that is in the best interest of the questioner.

I am sure you will find many people with your mindset who are interested in such a website or forum.

**laviramesh** · 09-10-2007, 08:37 PM

Well, you both are DEAD WRONG. I am really happy to tell you that for the trivial reasons you said the visa has been approved. I can provide you the tracking numbers if you like.

As far visa getting rejected 3 times, it was due to bad luck and burkahha lady. My parents were not asked to show any documents nor did they see any documents even when requetsed. The case with so many other people. When they went the 4th time they got another VO and they got the visa.Yes, indeed the visa process is unfair and unjust.

All I am saying please don't provide wrong information and scare people. Eventhough you have disclaimers saying that use the information at your own risk - you are actually scaring people by providing wrong information. Case and point I am talking about the point that my parents had to leave immediately eventhough they are in-status and not overstaying without approval. We are just waiting for result of extension request and that is not illegal.

chennai_123 · 09-10-2007, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by laviramesh

Well, you both are DEAD WRONG. I am really happy to tell you that for the trivial reasons you said the visa has been approved. I can provide you the tracking numbers if you like.

As far visa getting rejected 3 times, it was due to bad luck and burkahha lady. My parents were not asked to show any documents nor did they see any documents even when requetsed. The case with so many other people. When they went the 4th time they got another VO and they got the visa.Yes, indeed the visa process is unfair and unjust..

After seeing your answers, i would'nt call it bad-luck. The Burqa lady was right 1000%. I wish there were more of these VOs to weed out the visa cheats

. YOUR PARENTS ARE VISA CHEATS!!. Saying something else and doing something else. What did they say regarding the duration of visit on the application form 3,6 or 9 months? Give me a break. They would have got a different answer if they said 9 months. They have LIED on the application form, LIED at POE and Filed frivolous application for extension of stay. I can equate this to stealing something and crying foul and then justifying the crime. Last month's newspaper has a much better value than your notarized documents that you submitted for your parent's visa, no wonder why the burqa lady did'nt ask for such information.

All I am saying please don't provide wrong information and scare people. Eventhough you have disclaimers saying that use the information at your own risk - you are actually scaring people by providing wrong information. Case and point I am talking about the point that my parents had to leave immediately eventhough they are in-status and not overstaying without approval. We are just waiting for result of extension request and that is not illegal.

People are NOT providing wrong information here, they are stating the law and also cautioning you against violating it. If you always wanted to hear sugar coated answers and want people to be in agreement with you, sorry, please stay away from the forum. Don't justify your actions and have others agree with you and BTW don't provide false hopes for people who need TRUE answers. Read the FAQ On this forum on when to extend a visitor's visa.

**laviramesh** · 09-11-2007, 08:39 AM

Well well well

I don't think many users agree with your opinion on the Burqa lady. My parents never lied they had put 6 months on the visa application and got 6 months. My cousin's wedding was fixed after they have arrived here, we have legally asked for extension and we got it.

It is not that I want to hear sugar coated answers, I have been burned 3 times with un fair justice system, so I know. Spare me the lecture about scruples. My parents were in no vilation because they were in-status, you have scared us by stating that they would be overstaying and breaking the law.

People are asking questions on this form and you don't have to abuse them verbally , just because you think the extension reasons are trivial. You are not the VO, so save your judgement and don't inflict opionions on other people. If the reasons were so trivial then why was the extension approved. You don not know the criteria why the VO officer rejects or approves any application.

People who are coming to this forum requesting advice, please do not put up with free verbal abuse.