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gskumar1004     08/19/2015 20:04 PM
 


Hi Friends,

My son has a POI card and we are planning to travel Indian in November .
I am so confused after reading various posts on whether POI card is valid or not

So can any one share their recent experiences traveling to India on a POI card

Thanks
Kumar

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Meesund     05/19/2015 08:41 AM
 


We landed in Chennai airport last night with our 2 kids and their US PPs and valid PIO cards. I saw the new information on Houstion CGI website about the PIO expiration on June 17 and we have to submit applications to convert OCI before we leave and travel with the CKGS receipt with the valid PIO cards. I did file the applications for my two kids and received the receipts just a day before our travel date.

At Chennai my wife and I were sent to an immigration officer deals with Indian passports and my kids were sent to the officer deals with foreign passports. No questions were asked about the OCI conversion. I asked the officer who processed my kids about the June 17th expiry date, she said the PIO cards are valid for the lifetime and we have to send the cards to our mission post (Houston for me) to get the lifetime validly stamp. So it is not very clear what the actual directive between consulates, CKGS, and mission posts. The amount of inconsistency in this issue is simply frustrating. So, as of yesterday, no issues at Chennai port of entry with valid US passport (plus old passport if applicable) and valid PIO cards. I hope this is useful for those who have immediate travel plans.


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CHANDRAJP     05/14/2015 00:48 AM
 


Folks,
   Over the last days, I was emailing, calling Consulates regarding PIO card validity after June 17th, 2015 since I've a
journey after June 17th 2015. I emailed MHA(http://mha1.nic.in/foreigDiv/contactus.html) regarding having OCI in place of
PIO scenario and I got the the generic reply

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  PIO scheme has been merged with OCI scheme w.e.f. 9th January 2015 and new PIO cards are not being issued w.e.f. this date. The validity of existing PIO cards is automatically extended till LIFELONG and it will remain valid.

1. It is not mandatory to convert PIO to OCI. It is optional.
2. No time frame has been prescribed for conversion. It can be done at any time if the holder desires to convert it.
3. Conversion is GRATIS and no application fee is charged. Therefore, the question of penalty does not arise as it is not
time bound.
4. Existing cards are valid Lifelong and the validity stamp on it may be affixed by any FRRO, Indian Missions or even
Immigration Check Posts, if desired by anyone. Validity stamp is NOT MANDATORY.
5. Conversion applications from PIO to OCI need to be submitted to the same office, which originally issued the PIO cards,
since these cards were issued by the Indian Mission under their delegated powers and entire records/data of the
applications are available with them only.

                       So long as you are carrying genuine PIO card, you should have no problem in entering/exiting the
country. For query related to OCI card, please write to [email protected]
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Regarding my situation, I've valid PIOs and valid PPs for my 3 children. 2 of the PIOs were obtained in 2009 from
Indian Embassy, DC. Third one was issued on Jan 14th 2015(Yes, 5 days after the 9th Jan 2015 date) from Atlanta Consulate.
In an email, Atlanta Consulate said PIO card is not valid for travel after June 17th 2015. But yesterday when I
called their office, a lady picked and said PIO cards are valid lifelong and one need to apply for OCI soon but the
existing PIO card is valid irrespective of June 17th 2015 date, completely contradicitng information within the same
Consulate.

I checked Houston Consulate website for more clarity and it says, those doing interim travel to India need to have valid
PP, valid PIO AND Ckgs receipt showing that the applicant applied for OCI in lieu of PIO.

But the problem is Atlanta and SF ckgs centers take original PIO cards when applying for OCI in lieu of PIO and return PIO
(cancelled) along with OCI and PP after completion of OCI process(atleast 2 months). Other Consulates/Embassy applicants can send PIO card during step 2 of OCI card process. As one of my child's PIO card is from Atlanta, I cannot apply for OCI in lieu of PIO because I've to submit original PIO and I'll get it after 2 months

   I just wanted to see what information is being asked in OCI in lieu of PIO online form. So, When I tried to fill the OCI
in lieu of PIO online form for the PIO card with issue date of 14th Jan, the form was not going to next page as it is
thinking that the PIO card with issued date of 14th Jan is invalid and also the form is not recognizing the validity date
of LIFELONG and saying Invalid date format.

Ok, I said enough, confused myself and confused everyone. My question/concern is simple. Is valid PIO card with
valid PP enough for India travel after June 17th. Probably, few people in the forum are there in this situation. Please let
me know your opinions. I've already prepared application forms for 3 Tourist Visas but just thought I would check in the
forum.

Thanks



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mk26     05/10/2015 00:40 AM
 


I got to know about this today only that PIO will be invalid after 17 Jun 2015, If I understood correctly that one can travel with PIO before 17th Jun 2015 to India and stay after 17th June 2015 and come back without any problem, I have a planned travel on 30th May 2015 and I don't want risking by sending the PIO to get OCI before this date. what do you guys think? would I have any problem while coming back ?

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chandrajp     04/30/2015 16:20 PM
 


Dear friends,
     The Ministry of Home Affairs again surprised us by saying that PIO cards are no longer valid after June 17th 2015 when traveling to India. Here is the link http://www.indianconsulateatlanta.org/page/display/13. For those of us who got PIOs until January 9th 2015, we still have to to take OCI. If we have journey to India before June 17th, we can still use PIO. But if anyone wants to go to India after June 17th, they have to have either a visa or OCI and PIO card is not valid. The only good thing is - for those who already have PIO, they can convert to OCI with a lesser fee($20) and it still takes 8 to 10 weeks of time, but I'm not fully sure about the reduced fee.

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illaashok     04/23/2015 15:17 PM
 


My baby has PIO card which was issued in 2014 October and she left to India in Nov 2014 and she will be comming back to US in may 2015, if the stay outside US for more than 6 months do we need to submit any forms. She has valid PIO and US passport
If any one have details please let me know.

Regards,
Ashok
 

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john786     03/03/2015 06:25 AM
 


Dear all, if your PIO card issued after Jan 2015. Please write or call Phone No.-22560198/22560199,
E-mail- [email protected]. You can also visit http://mha1.nic.in/foreigDiv/contactus.html this is the Foreigners Division
Ministry of Home Affairs Government of India. Very good response will be provided.

My wife PIO card issued after Janunary 9 so I wrote them. They told me to give the scanned copy of my her PIO. I gave. Them they sent my email to concerned person puuting me in CC. Fats process because. They responded to my two email with in one hour and they always pick phone and reply to you.

I told them that please clearify on the matter.

Please call them and write to them.


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deshi     02/20/2015 11:19 AM
 


This is what they have in the Bureau of Immigration website... The language is different from that they have on the Indian Consulates and CKGS. So I am thinking that the PIO cards issued after Jan 9th are valid as they are existing PIO cards.... Note the Gazette has a second page that sent instructions to the Consulates and other places on Jan 16th....

If there is anyone who had a PIO issued after Jan 9th, 2015 and has visited India - Please post your experience....

http://boi.gov.in/content/person-indian-origin-pio

Person Of Indian Origin (PIO)

1. As per the Gazette of India (Part-I, Section-I) published on 09.01.2015, all the existing Persons of Indian Origin (PIO) card holder registered as such under new PIO Card scheme 2002, shall be deemed to be Overseas Citizens of India Cardholder.
 2. Again as per the Gazette of India (Part-I, Section-I) published on 30.09.2014, a PIO card issued to an applicant shall be valid for his lifetime, provided such applicant has a valid Passport.

Gazette Notification of Merger of PIO & OCI Cards : http://mha1.nic.in/pdfs/Merge_PIO_OCI.pdf
 

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user_sf     02/10/2015 15:55 PM
 


I applied for my daughter's PIO at SF through CKGS on 1/06/2015. Just got an update from CKGS that the

application will be returned without PIO.

My travel date is on 2/20 - have 10 days left. Is Tourist Visa on Arrival (TVoA) a good option? Please let me

know if anyone had any experience with TVoA?

Time lines of my PIO application:

Email from CKGS that my application will be returned without PIO: 2/10/2015

Your application has been submitted at The Indian Embassy/Consulate for further processing. 01/06/2015
Your application is in process. Your tracking id is USAS***** 01/06/2015
Your application has been received and will be submitted subject to verification. 01/06/2015

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gvish     02/07/2015 18:46 PM
 


My kids PIO application was submitted to the embassy on 08-Jan -2015. I was hoping that I will be receiving PIO card.
Yesterday my kids PIO application packet was returned without any PIO.

Actually they have issued PIO on 13-Jan-2015 and cancelled later.

They have given explanation with the gazette notification, but many of them have received PIO whose application was approved on 14th & 15th.

Is there any way where we can escalate about this to anyone to get back the assigned PIO or I should keep quiet and go for OCI.

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