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  • J-2 Resident Alien for tax purposes?

    Hello,

    I have been on a J-2 visa (from my husband's J-1 research visa) since the beginning of the year and I have SSN and Employment Authorisation. I am doing some freelance work and I was just asked to fill in the w-9 form, in which I have to certify that I am a US Person, which includes being a resident alien. My husband is still exempt from taxes because of the two year clause (so he is still a non-resident alien). Am I a resident alien for tax purposes?
    Thank you!

  • #2
    1) your spouse is not exempt from US income taxes, as non-resident aliens (for tax purposes) they are only exempt from social security and medicare taxes

    2) You would be treated as a non-resident alien as well, if not for the fact that you are violating your visa status by engaging in employment. Therefore, you should treat yourself as a US resident for tax purposes

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    • #3
      Originally posted by inadmissible View Post
      1) your spouse is not exempt from US income taxes, as non-resident aliens (for tax purposes) they are only exempt from social security and medicare taxes
      Right!

      Originally posted by inadmissible View Post
      2) You would be treated as a non-resident alien as well, if not for the fact that you are violating your visa status by engaging in employment. Therefore, you should treat yourself as a US resident for tax purposes
      Thank you!
      Am I automatically a resident alien because I work and have EAD/SSN, or am I subject to the Substantial Presence Test? Say, if I was in the US less than 183 days.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by inezt View Post
        Hello,

        I have been on a J-2 visa (from my husband's J-1 research visa) since the beginning of the year and I have SSN and Employment Authorisation. I am doing some freelance work and I was just asked to fill in the w-9 form, in which I have to certify that I am a US Person, which includes being a resident alien. My husband is still exempt from taxes because of the two year clause (so he is still a non-resident alien). Am I a resident alien for tax purposes?
        Thank you!
        Normally someone in the US is a resident alien if they meet the Substantial Presence Test, which means (the number of days they are present in the US that year) + 1/3 (the number of days they are present in the US the previous year) + 1/6 (the number of days they are present in the US the year before that) >= 183 days. However, in some cases days do not count for the Substantial Presence Test.

        J-1 can be "student" or "teacher or trainee" (anything other than student). All the days as a "student" are exempt from the Substantial Presence Test for a given year if they have not been exempt from the Substantial Presence Test for any part of 5 previous calendar years. All the days as a "teacher or trainee" are exempt from the Substantial Presence Test for a given year if they have not been exempt from the Substantial Presence Test for any part of 2 of the previous 6 calendar years. The same rules apply to spouses and children.

        I'll assume that your husband is not a J-1 "student"? And therefore he would fall under "teacher or trainee". So basically, long story short, if you haven't been in the US before you came on J-2, then you are a non-resident alien for this year, 2017, if you came in 2016 or later; you are a resident alien for 2017 if you came in 2015 or earlier.

        Originally posted by inadmissible View Post
        if not for the fact that you are violating your visa status by engaging in employment.
        J-2s are entitled to get EADs, and if they are working on a J-2 EAD then it's not violating their J-2 status.

        This is my personal opinion and is not to be construed as legal advice.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by newacct View Post
          J-1 can be "student" or "teacher or trainee" (anything other than student). All the days as a "student" are exempt from the Substantial Presence Test for a given year if they have not been exempt from the Substantial Presence Test for any part of 5 previous calendar years. All the days as a "teacher or trainee" are exempt from the Substantial Presence Test for a given year if they have not been exempt from the Substantial Presence Test for any part of 2 of the previous 6 calendar years. The same rules apply to spouses and children.

          I'll assume that your husband is not a J-1 "student"? And therefore he would fall under "teacher or trainee". So basically, long story short, if you haven't been in the US before you came on J-2, then you are a non-resident alien for this year, 2017, if you came in 2016 or later; you are a resident alien for 2017 if you came in 2015 or earlier.
          Yes, he is in the second category. So that clarifies that I am a non-resident alien. But for tax purposes am I considered a "U.S. Person"? i.e., can I fill in the W-9 form?

          Originally posted by newacct View Post
          J-2s are entitled to get EADs, and if they are working on a J-2 EAD then it's not violating their J-2 status.
          Yes, I am working on a J-2 EAD, I just wonder if the fact that I have an EAD and work changes my status in the IRS definition.

          Thank you for your help, these different definitions of resident/non-resident are a bit confusing to me

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          • #6
            Originally posted by inezt View Post
            Yes, he is in the second category. So that clarifies that I am a non-resident alien. But for tax purposes am I considered a "U.S. Person"? i.e., can I fill in the W-9 form?
            Since you are not a US citizen or resident alien, you are not a US person right now. So I think you would fill in W-8BEN, not W-9.

            This is my personal opinion and is not to be construed as legal advice.

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