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  • Unused Expired H1B

    I was in the US on a H1B visa from Aug-2005 to Aug-2011. I am presently doing my one year out of the country. My Indian Company had planned to apply H1 for me, but they sent in the application 1 day late and I missed the quota for this year. I cannot afford to stay one year out of the country again.

    I had two H1 petitions in 2000 and 2001, which I never used and they are expired. I have asked around to see whether I can use them to apply for CAP-EXEMPT H1B, so I can enter the US on a H1B. So far I have got a negative reply, the reason for the negative reply is that since my H1B approval is more than 6 years old I cannot use the same. However I have a friend of mine who was on a L1 in the US from Jan-2007 and in 2008 since the H1B quota was over, he used an old H1B approval which he got in 1999 and appealed for CAP-EXEMPT and since he got the H1B visa, he has been on H1B since then.

    I would like to know whether I can use my old H1B approvals of 2000 and 2001. If I cannot, then how did my friend get his H1B which was expired more than 6 years. When I checked with him, all he said was he submitted the usual documents and they "APPEALED" for CAP-EXEMPT. He is also not sure how they did it as he has left that company long back.

    Pl help me out here as am desperate. Thanks

  • #2
    It is not just the 6 year limitation on the CAP. Once you have completed 6 years in U.S in H1B, you cannot use any other petition to get exempt from CAP. In order to get a fresh 6 year period, you need to stay out for one whole year and then apply for the H1B under a brand new CAP to be eligible for H1B. What happened in your friend's case could very well be a mistake. USCIS would have overlooked the fact that his previous H1B petition got approved very long time ago.
    Not a legal advice. Use of this information is strictly at your own risk.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by shervin143 View Post
      It is not just the 6 year limitation on the CAP. Once you have completed 6 years in U.S in H1B, you cannot use any other petition to get exempt from CAP. In order to get a fresh 6 year period, you need to stay out for one whole year and then apply for the H1B under a brand new CAP to be eligible for H1B. What happened in your friend's case could very well be a mistake. USCIS would have overlooked the fact that his previous H1B petition got approved very long time ago.
      hey shervin

      with all due respect stop misguiding members with wrong information

      I have seen your comments in several threads

      you have wrong info yet your assuredness would make members believe what you are saying and then maybe act on your advise and spoil their life

      FIRST OF ALL

      THERE IS NO SUCH THINK AS A 6 YEAR LIMITATION ON CAP. bcos then how would the above members' friend recapture a H1 first approved in 1999 in 2008???

      it does not matter if your h1 was approved 6 yrs back or 10 yrs back or 20 years back. You are CAP exempt if there is still TIME ON IT ie. if you were physically in the US on H1 status for less than 6 years. thats all that matters. even in this case YOU have 2 options

      option 1. it is upto you if you want to recapture that old H1 and claim "REMAINDER" TIME in which case it is CAP exempt. and a new H1 will be issued only for the remainder time, ie. 6 YEARS Minus what you already used up.

      option 2. If you want another FRESH 6years , then you are subject to the cap.

      however both these options will be open ONLY after you spend more than 1 year outside US

      for more clarity , see link https://www.immihelp.com/h1b-visa-general-faq/

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      Originally posted by trjj74 View Post
      I was in the US on a H1B visa from Aug-2005 to Aug-2011. I am presently doing my one year out of the country. My Indian Company had planned to apply H1 for me, but they sent in the application 1 day late and I missed the quota for this year. I cannot afford to stay one year out of the country again.

      I had two H1 petitions in 2000 and 2001, which I never used and they are expired. I have asked around to see whether I can use them to apply for CAP-EXEMPT H1B, so I can enter the US on a H1B. So far I have got a negative reply, the reason for the negative reply is that since my H1B approval is more than 6 years old I cannot use the same. However I have a friend of mine who was on a L1 in the US from Jan-2007 and in 2008 since the H1B quota was over, he used an old H1B approval which he got in 1999 and appealed for CAP-EXEMPT and since he got the H1B visa, he has been on H1B since then.

      I would like to know whether I can use my old H1B approvals of 2000 and 2001. If I cannot, then how did my friend get his H1B which was expired more than 6 years. When I checked with him, all he said was he submitted the usual documents and they "APPEALED" for CAP-EXEMPT. He is also not sure how they did it as he has left that company long back.

      Pl help me out here as am desperate. Thanks


      TO trjj74


      you will not qualify for cap exempt, the reason is you exhausted total 6 years status on H1 FROM Aug 2005 to Aug 2011

      you have to go again on a new quota based VISA

      or if any option , go for extn, but I am not sure

      1 thing is for sure, you do not meet the requirements for cap exempt

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      • #4
        Originally posted by foofighters View Post
        hey shervin


        it does not matter if your h1 was approved 6 yrs back or 10 yrs back or 20 years back. You are CAP exempt if there is still TIME ON IT ie. if you were physically in the US on H1 status for less than 6 years. thats all that matters. even in this case YOU have 2 options
        So, if the above is correct, my H1B was valid till 2007 from 2004 (& I used less than 6 months) then if I were to apply for a H1B now, it will be cap exempt? Am I correct in my understanding?

        Does it matter if I have traveled to the US between 2007 & now on B1...will that time be considered as stay in the US when processing the new H1B?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by pshriram View Post
          So, if the above is correct, my H1B was valid till 2007 from 2004 (& I used less than 6 months) then if I were to apply for a H1B now, it will be cap exempt? Am I correct in my understanding?

          Does it matter if I have traveled to the US between 2007 & now on B1...will that time be considered as stay in the US when processing the new H1B?
          yes you will be cap exempt

          the conditions are,

          1. you must have time on your H1 ie not exhausted the 6 years

          2. you must be atleast 1 year outside US before filing a H1 to claim the 'remainder' period.

          in ur case as long as u physically spent a continuos year outside US u should be ok

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          • #6
            Expired h1b

            Hi foofighters,

            My H1b was approved in 2004. I never travelled to US on H1. Now, in 2013 can i apply for H1b with a new employer and can it be filed under non-CAP with a COS filed?

            Please let me know.

            Thanks.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by sharanv View Post
              Hi foofighters,

              My H1b was approved in 2004. I never travelled to US on H1. Now, in 2013 can i apply for H1b with a new employer and can it be filed under non-CAP with a COS filed?

              Please let me know.

              Thanks.
              No. For one to use the "remainder option" one has to have had an H1 status in last 6 Years.

              This is my opinion not legal advice.

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              • #8
                Unused h1B

                Hello,
                This may sound like a redundant question. Sorry for that.
                I had an H1 between Oct 2003 and Apr 2006. I worked in the US between
                Nov 2003 and Jun 2004 and
                Oct 2005 and Feb 2006.

                My Employer filed for an extension in 2006 and it was approved (Not sure until when though).
                I had been to the US on H4 on two occasions in 2009 and 2010 for a month each.
                Currently, I am in the US on a H4 (2013). Can i apply for H1b with a new employer and can it be filed under non-CAP with a COS filed?

                Thanks.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by rjr2007 View Post
                  Hello,
                  This may sound like a redundant question. Sorry for that.
                  I had an H1 between Oct 2003 and Apr 2006. I worked in the US between
                  Nov 2003 and Jun 2004 and
                  Oct 2005 and Feb 2006.

                  My Employer filed for an extension in 2006 and it was approved (Not sure until when though).
                  I had been to the US on H4 on two occasions in 2009 and 2010 for a month each.
                  Currently, I am in the US on a H4 (2013). Can i apply for H1b with a new employer and can it be filed under non-CAP with a COS filed?

                  Thanks.
                  If extension was approved, you need to first determine till when it was approved. If it was approved till a time in last 6 Years there may be chances that it could be reused.

                  This is my opinion not legal advice.

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                  • #10
                    Reg h1 b

                    HI

                    I got my H1 B in 2006 butit visa got expired on 2009 and I never utilize my h1 and never travel to USA on H1 B. But I came to USA several time on L1 A and all together physical stay in us is around 1 year. Please let me know whether I can use my existing H1 or not.

                    Thanks

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by raghvi View Post
                      If extension was approved, you need to first determine till when it was approved. If it was approved till a time in last 6 Years there may be chances that it could be reused.

                      This is my opinion not legal advice.
                      Hi raghvi,
                      Apologies for not having updated you on this, but my H1 was approved until October 2007. My current employer filed for a recapture of h1 time on April 2014 and it was approved. Currently, I am working in the US.
                      So, I'm really not sure about the 6 year time frame perception.

                      Thanks.

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                      • #12
                        Am I eligible for a Cap Exempt?

                        Hello Experts,

                        My first H1-B was applied and approved in Jan 2009, so I wanted to know answers to some questions below which have the exact dates.

                        1) Company A applied for my H1-B which was effective from 01/08/2009 to 09/17/2011. I used it from Jan 2009 to May 2009 (5 months on H1-B) and changed my status to F2 and later F1. The company never revoked my H1-B.

                        2) Company B used the same petition from Company A and applied for my H1-B on April 1st 2013 which got approved and was effective from 04/19/2013 to 04/09/2016 (1 year 4 months on H1-B) and I used it from April 2013 to Aug 2014 and changed my status (CoS) to H4. I checked the the status of my H1-B receipt number and it shows that Company B has revoked/withdrawn my H1-B.

                        3) Now, I am planning to start work with Company C, so can they use the same H1-B petition from Company B (which is withdrawn/revoked) to initiate my CoS from H4 to H1-B. Or they will have to file the fresh H1-B, if so do I have to go through a lottery system or I am eligible in cap exempt period left on my H1-B.

                        4) How does the revoking/withdrawal of my H1-B from Company B would effect my current case with Company C? Any legal options, which can help me get the process started on my H1-B with Company C?

                        Thank you in advance.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by rjr2007 View Post
                          Hi raghvi,
                          Apologies for not having updated you on this, but my H1 was approved until October 2007. My current employer filed for a recapture of h1 time on April 2014 and it was approved. Currently, I am working in the US.
                          So, I'm really not sure about the 6 year time frame perception.

                          Thanks.


                          Please call me at +919611534000. My petition approved in 2008 and not stamped or traveled to US till now (2015). Now one consultancy promising me that they will process my visa .Please suggest me...am I eligible for H1B cap exempt ?

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                          • #14
                            Unused expired H1B

                            Hello Experts,
                            I have un-used and expired H1B visa I got stamped in Oct 2007 but never travelled to US on this H1B. Now I am in US with another employer on L1 visa since Dec 2013.
                            Since L1 is not transferrable, I want to use my expired H1.
                            I went through the entire thread of discussion but doesn't seems to clearly understand the "definition of 6 years". Is it just numeric +6 years from year of stamping or "time spent in us" ?

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                            • #15
                              H1B CAP is valid for 6 years from the H1B effective date. Effective date will be printed in your approval notice.

                              Originally posted by ashwinifly View Post
                              Hello Experts,
                              I have un-used and expired H1B visa I got stamped in Oct 2007 but never travelled to US on this H1B. Now I am in US with another employer on L1 visa since Dec 2013.
                              Since L1 is not transferrable, I want to use my expired H1.
                              I went through the entire thread of discussion but doesn't seems to clearly understand the "definition of 6 years". Is it just numeric +6 years from year of stamping or "time spent in us" ?
                              Not a legal advice. Use of this information is strictly at your own risk.

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