Refresh of Information

[Walbrzyszanka21]

Hello All,

I haven't been on this website for quite some time. I just want to refresh my memory on how the process goes:

I received by Conditional Green Card November of 2017. From what I understand, I need to fill out and send the I-751 form with $595 fee in order to remove the conditions. I need to send that form 90 days before my GC expires.

Looking at the form, it states that there will be a biometrics fee as well. For the removal of the conditions, do you still have to do the biometrics and interview? What have people done to prepare for this or rather can people who have gone through this process share their experience?

Also is it true that after being a permanent resident for three years, I can apply for citizenship? So November 2020 I will be able to apply for citizenship?

What about adjusting status for my parents? Can I only do that after I become a citizen? Is there a way to ensure that they won't get deported right now? Say a form?

Thank you all for the help and my apologies for being MIA.

Started a new job so it has been hectic.

[Agata T.]

Hello All,

I haven't been on this website for quite some time. I just want to refresh my memory on how the process goes:

I received by Conditional Green Card November of 2017. From what I understand, I need to fill out and send the I-751 form with $595 fee in order to remove the conditions. I need to send that form 90 days before my GC expires.

Looking at the form, it states that there will be a biometrics fee as well. For the removal of the conditions, do you still have to do the biometrics and interview? What have people done to prepare for this or rather can people who have gone through this process share their experience?

Also is it true that after being a permanent resident for three years, I can apply for citizenship? So November 2020 I will be able to apply for citizenship?

What about adjusting status for my parents? Can I only do that after I become a citizen? Is there a way to ensure that they won't get deported right now? Say a form?

Thank you all for the help and my apologies for being MIA.


Started a new job so it has been hectic.

I think I can answer at least one question fro you;
Luckily I got 10 year Green Card since my marriage passed 2 year mark. My brother however, got conditional green card and to remove it he pretty much had to go thru the process again, file documents, biometrics, interview and then wait for the decision. He said second interview was harder because he and his wife were interviewed separately, she went first and then he went. Although he knew he "screwd up: on two answers they gave him his Permanent Residency card.

All the best to you !!!

[UScitizenFilingforspouse]

Hello All,

I haven't been on this website for quite some time. I just want to refresh my memory on how the process goes:

I received by Conditional Green Card November of 2017. From what I understand, I need to fill out and send the I-751 form with $595 fee in order to remove the conditions. I need to send that form 90 days before my GC expires.

Looking at the form, it states that there will be a biometrics fee as well. For the removal of the conditions, do you still have to do the biometrics and interview? What have people done to prepare for this or rather can people who have gone through this process share their experience?

Also is it true that after being a permanent resident for three years, I can apply for citizenship? So November 2020 I will be able to apply for citizenship?

What about adjusting status for my parents? Can I only do that after I become a citizen? Is there a way to ensure that they won't get deported right now? Say a form?

Thank you all for the help and my apologies for being MIA.

Started a new job so it has been hectic.

That is correct. You may submit the I-751 up 90 days before your Conditional permanent resident card expires. Most people get the Biometrics notice within a month of filing. That may vary.

The interview component may or may not happen. If you file a solid, and thorough I-751 that lacks any gaps, then the interview is typically waived. By no gaps, I mean every month of your living arrangements is accounted for. Every statement, every bill must be included. Individual statements printed each month are preferred over summary statement printed at the end of the year. As you might imagine, it would be easy to just change the names on the account right before printing that summary statement for the year. You even want to display when the statement was printed, not just when it was issued. In other words, do not print everything a week before filing.

Nowadays, being selected for an interview may actually speed up the process. However, when you are selected, bear in mind there may or may not be a suspicion of fraud. USCIS has to interview cases just for audit purposes.

Typically, it takes well over 1.5 years to get an approval on your I-751. Often times, you become eligible for citizenship based on the 3 year rule (through marriage to a US citizen), before your I-751 is even reviewed. In that case, you may file your N-400 even though your I-751 is still pending. Since USCIS does have deadlines for N-400s, your application will get to the interview stage fast - usually. Your N-400 may not be adjudicated if your I-751 is pending. This should trigger the adjudicator to request your I-751 file. (This does not always happen. It's a good idea to give the office the heads up. OR you may send them a copy of your I-751 file but those copies would have to be certified to be exact copies of the file you sent.)

So you may have a separate I-751 interview and N-400 interview on the same day. Your spouse would be present for both. You would also bring updated evidence of bona fide marriage for the I-751. Since the N-400 requires evidence that you are still married to the US citizen, you may just use the same evidence for the N-400. If the ISO finds that redundant, then you will only be asked for it once.

It's important to know that the policy manual requires the ISO to conduct the N-400 interview EVEN IF your I-751 file has not reached the field office yet. Sometimes, applicants get turned away because the I-751 is pending and told to resolve with I-751 with the OTHER field office first, and then come back to finalize the N-400 at the current field office. That is wrong, and you should speak up and cite the Policy manual right there and then.

There is a very good example of how to file a well organized and thorough I-751 on vi$a j0urney. Here is the link. It will be blocked, though. http://www. ******** ***.com/forums/...ws-megathread/ If you google in quotes "I-751 Cover Letter & List of Evidence Samples (and Reviews megathread)", the thread will be the first result. The thread has what I call the Master Table of Contents, which many of us have used as a guide to craft the Table of Contents for AOS applications and interviews. It covers everything.

All the best.

PS: You have to wait until you become a citizen to file for your parents' green card. If you file a thorough application with a solid
I-864, the interview is typically waived. My mother got her EAD under the 90 day mark and the green card arrived by mail around 5 months after filing. No interview. It was very fast. She had overstayed 4 years, maybe 5. But all of that is forgiven, since parents are immediate relatives.

[azblk]

Hello All,

I haven't been on this website for quite some time. I just want to refresh my memory on how the process goes:

I received by Conditional Green Card November of 2017. From what I understand, I need to fill out and send the I-751 form with $595 fee in order to remove the conditions. I need to send that form 90 days before my GC expires.

Looking at the form, it states that there will be a biometrics fee as well. For the removal of the conditions, do you still have to do the biometrics and interview? What have people done to prepare for this or rather can people who have gone through this process share their experience?

It is pretty much the same as green card minus work permit, affidavit of support and AP. The only difference is any evidence of bonafides provided must be dated after you acquired GC.

Also is it true that after being a permanent resident for three years, I can apply for citizenship? So November 2020 I will be able to apply for citizenship?

What about adjusting status for my parents? Can I only do that after I become a citizen? Is there a way to ensure that they won't get deported right now? Say a form?

Thank you all for the help and my apologies for being MIA.

Started a new job so it has been hectic.

Yes you can apply for citizenship 90 days before 3 year anniversary. You have to be a citizen for file for parents. No, They have no basis to be in the US and if ICE finds them they can be deported.

[kaylip]

Hello All,

I haven't been on this website for quite some time. I just want to refresh my memory on how the process goes:

I received by Conditional Green Card November of 2017. From what I understand, I need to fill out and send the I-751 form with $595 fee in order to remove the conditions. I need to send that form 90 days before my GC expires.

Looking at the form, it states that there will be a biometrics fee as well. For the removal of the conditions, do you still have to do the biometrics and interview? What have people done to prepare for this or rather can people who have gone through this process share their experience?

Also is it true that after being a permanent resident for three years, I can apply for citizenship? So November 2020 I will be able to apply for citizenship?

What about adjusting status for my parents? Can I only do that after I become a citizen? Is there a way to ensure that they won't get deported right now? Say a form?

Thank you all for the help and my apologies for being MIA.

Started a new job so it has been hectic.

You have to go through biometrics again but the interview for i-751 can be waived only if you send in concrete evidence of cohabitation. My aunt got her green card in the mail without having an interview. When I was approved at the adjustment of status interview last week, the officer told us a number of evidence we can send in when filing i751. This included;
Joint assets(house, car, bed, washing machine, etc)
Travel receipts & tickets of trips/vacations
Birth certificate of children (if any)
Joint bills, bank accounts, etc

You get the idea. Basically joint documents showing both names, insurance can be one as well.

If you received your GC through marriage then 3 years after you can apply for citizenship.

You can adjust your parents' status as a permanent resident u don't have to wait until u get citizenship but I think it depends on whether they are out of status or not. If they are out of status then only citizens can petition for their immediate relative that's out of status.

[azblk]

If you received your GC through marriage then 3 years after you can apply for citizenship.

You can adjust your parents' status as a permanent resident u don't have to wait until u get citizenship but I think it depends on whether they are out of status or not. If they are out of status then only citizens can petition for their immediate relative that's out of status.

This is incorrect a LPR can NOT petition their parents.

https://www.uscis.gov/family/family-green-card-holders-permanent-residents

[kaylip]

This is incorrect a LPR can NOT petition their parents.

https://www.uscis.gov/family/family-...nent-residents

Okay

[UScitizenFilingforspouse]

Hello All,

I haven't been on this website for quite some time. I just want to refresh my memory on how the process goes:

I received by Conditional Green Card November of 2017. From what I understand, I need to fill out and send the I-751 form with $595 fee in order to remove the conditions. I need to send that form 90 days before my GC expires.

Looking at the form, it states that there will be a biometrics fee as well. For the removal of the conditions, do you still have to do the biometrics and interview? What have people done to prepare for this or rather can people who have gone through this process share their experience?

Also is it true that after being a permanent resident for three years, I can apply for citizenship? So November 2020 I will be able to apply for citizenship?

What about adjusting status for my parents? Can I only do that after I become a citizen? Is there a way to ensure that they won't get deported right now? Say a form?

Thank you all for the help and my apologies for being MIA.

Started a new job so it has been hectic.

Here is a screenshot of the I-751 instructions. All evidence is required at the time of filing - same as the I-130 instructions. It's also every and any document - it says "submit as many documents as you can (...)".

It also states "from the date of the marriage to the present date". So it's not just from the date of your AOS interview or the date your conditional green card was approved. It's everything from the date of marriage.

Best.

[azblk]

It also states "from the date of the marriage to the present date". So it's not just from the date of your AOS interview or the date your conditional green card was approved. It's everything from the date of marriage.

Best.

Most sources I have seen on this say you send evidence from the last 2 years and it should be distinct from what you sent to get your conditional green card if you are filing i-751 jointly.

[UScitizenFilingforspouse]

Most sources I have seen on this say you send evidence from the last 2 years and it should be distinct from what you sent to get your conditional green card if you are filing i-751 jointly.

I see the rationale behind that, but you know me, I am just relaying what the instructions state - like a parrot. LOL. If people interpret it another way, then that's up to them.

It's possible the instructions state that because for AOS most people submit evidence from the time they met until the time of filing. Since it does not say otherwise, I will be submitting everything and the **** *** sink. For some reason, every time I write **** *** sink, immihelp blocks it. k1tch3n s1nk!

[MissTz1982]

I see the rationale behind that, but you know me, I am just relaying what the instructions state - like a parrot. LOL. If people interpret it another way, then that's up to them.

It's possible the instructions state that because for AOS most people submit evidence from the time they met until the time of filing. Since it does not say otherwise, I will be submitting everything and the **** *** sink. For some reason, every time I write **** *** sink, immihelp blocks it. k1tch3n s1nk!

Shoot. We don?t even have any evidence from the day we met because I didn?t even think marriage was going to happened when I met my husband 😂. I?m not a photo person so we barely took pics. Anyways it is what it is.

[azblk]

I see the rationale behind that, but you know me, I am just relaying what the instructions state - like a parrot. LOL. If people interpret it another way, then that's up to them.

It's possible the instructions state that because for AOS most people submit evidence from the time they met until the time of filing. Since it does not say otherwise, I will be submitting everything and the **** *** sink. For some reason, every time I write **** *** sink, immihelp blocks it. k1tch3n s1nk!

Agreed. I see i-751 as just another obstacle in the course. I dont understand how a marriage marriage that was deemed bonafide 2 years ago is suddenly not bonafide in the next 2 years. Sounds like double jeopardy to me. I think the it onus should be on the USCIS to find evidence to debunk the marriage at this point rather than the petitioner proving bonafides that they already did when they got their CR-1 green card. It is like getting a speeding ticket and the judge acquits you but you have to come back to court after 2 years to prove that the judge did not err in acquitting you 2 years ago.

[MissTz1982]

[QUOTE=azblk;569197]Agreed. I see i-751 as just another obstacle in the course. I dont understand how a marriage marriage that was deemed bonafide 2 years ago is suddenly not bonafide in the next 2 years. Sounds like double jeopardy to me. I think the it onus should be on the USCIS to find evidence to debunk the marriage at this point rather than the petitioner proving bonafides that they already did when they got their CR-1 green card. It is like getting a speeding ticket and the judge acquits you but you have to come back to court after 2 years to prove that the judge did not err in acquitting you 2 years ago.[/QUOTE

And that?s why I?m not in a hurry for an interview. I?ll be just fine with the EAD for now. A couple I know got a late interview and were issued 10 year green card instead because their marriage was already 2 years. The entire process can be a headache and exhausting.

[UScitizenFilingforspouse]

Shoot. We don?t even have any evidence from the day we met because I didn?t even think marriage was going to happened when I met my husband 😂. I?m not a photo person so we barely took pics. Anyways it is what it is.

So the rationale behind that is that if you get married today, and submit your AOS application tomorrow, then it's wise to include evidence from the time you met. We submitted evidence that dates back to a few days after first meeting. We did so because we had it. But it's not written anywhere that doing so is a requirement.

You just have to show your marriage is bona fide. And as shown here by many, there are 1000 ways to skin that cat.

[kaylip]

So the rationale behind that is that if you get married today, and submit your AOS application tomorrow, then it's wise to include evidence from the time you met. We submitted evidence that dates back to a few days after first meeting. We did so because we had it. But it's not written anywhere that doing so is a requirement.

You just have to show your marriage is bona fide. And as shown here by many, there are 1000 ways to skin that cat.

The officer looked very closely at the postage stamp on a birthday card I had mailed to my husband 6 years ago when we first met. I think that was where he didn't really need more evidence but I still continued with 2 more pieces of evidence then my husband nudged me with his foot cuz he thought I was giving too much😂