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  • RFIE for petitioner I-864 when already submitted I-864W for beneficiary

    Hi all, I posted in the October 2019 thread but wanted to ask the entire forum about this.

    Got an RFIE today in the mail. It asks for Form I-864 for the petitioning sponsor. We submitted the I-864W for my husband (beneficiary) since he qualifies for one of the exemptions (over 40 ss credits), but I had no idea that I, as the US spouse petitioner, also had to submit the I-864 for myself? Please share thoughts.
    US Citizen filing on behalf of my spouse
    FO: St. Louis, MO
    10/03/19 documents mailed
    10/07/19 package received
    12/05/19 RFIE received in mail
    12/12/19 response to RFIE received by USCIS
    02/03/20 biometrics completed
    04/06/20 EAD approved, card being produced
    04/09/20 Case is Ready to be Scheduled for Interview
    07/02/20 Interview has been scheduled (waiting for notice)
    08/27/20 Interview/Card being produced!
    08/28/20 I-485 and I-130 Approved
    09/04/20 Card was mailed to me
    09/10/20 GC in hand

  • #2
    Here’s the exact wording:

    - Submit a complete and signed Form I-864, Affidavit of Support, for the petitioning sponsor listed on Form I-130. Even if a joint sponsor will be used, the petitioning sponsor must submit Form I-864. Also provide copies of the petitioning sponsor’s most recent Federal income tax returns and all supporting tax documents. If you have submitted Form I-864, the version you submitted is no longer accepted. You must submit Form I-864. All pages must be present and of the latest edition date.

    If the applicant qualifies for one of the exemptions on Form I-864W, please submit a completed and signed Form I-864W.

    Fir further instructions and the latest edition of Form I-864 (or I-864W), visit the USCIS website... etc”

    So my question is do we simply resubmit the Form I-864W — maybe they lost it? — or do I (the petitioner) also need to submit the I-864?

    Thanks for your help!
    US Citizen filing on behalf of my spouse
    FO: St. Louis, MO
    10/03/19 documents mailed
    10/07/19 package received
    12/05/19 RFIE received in mail
    12/12/19 response to RFIE received by USCIS
    02/03/20 biometrics completed
    04/06/20 EAD approved, card being produced
    04/09/20 Case is Ready to be Scheduled for Interview
    07/02/20 Interview has been scheduled (waiting for notice)
    08/27/20 Interview/Card being produced!
    08/28/20 I-485 and I-130 Approved
    09/04/20 Card was mailed to me
    09/10/20 GC in hand

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    • #3
      You shouldn't have to submit an I-864. Just resubmit the I-864W.

      This is my personal opinion and is not to be construed as legal advice.

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      • #4
        To my understanding, the petitioner ALWAYS has to fill out the I-864, even if their income is not going to being used.
        Still has to submit their most recent tax returns (2018) also. If you didn't need to file, you should write a letter explaining why.
        Kansas City, MO field office
        B1/B2 to AOS overstayed

        Priority date: 08/19/19

        Card charged: 08/23/19
        Text messages: 08/26/19
        NOA1's : 08/31/19
        Biometrics done 09/17/19
        RFIE Response delivered 10/19/19
        "Response to RFIE received" online status 10/22/19
        INTERVIEW SCHEDULED 11/07/19
        Received interview notice in mail 11/12/19
        Interview appt 12/19/19 Approved on spot!
        "Case was Approved" status update i-485 & i-130
        12/20/19
        Green card in hand! 12/28/19

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        • #5
          I reread the instructions on Form I-864W and it specifically states to be used in lieu of the 864 if one of the exemptions applies. It doesn’t say anything anywhere about the petitioner filing an 864 along with the beneficiary’s 864W.

          Wouldn’t the 864W render the 864 moot, even for the petitioner? That is, after all, the entire purpose of the exemption? Still confused...thanks for the feedback.
          US Citizen filing on behalf of my spouse
          FO: St. Louis, MO
          10/03/19 documents mailed
          10/07/19 package received
          12/05/19 RFIE received in mail
          12/12/19 response to RFIE received by USCIS
          02/03/20 biometrics completed
          04/06/20 EAD approved, card being produced
          04/09/20 Case is Ready to be Scheduled for Interview
          07/02/20 Interview has been scheduled (waiting for notice)
          08/27/20 Interview/Card being produced!
          08/28/20 I-485 and I-130 Approved
          09/04/20 Card was mailed to me
          09/10/20 GC in hand

          Comment


          • #6
            I don't think you should have to submit an I-864. Just resubmit the I-864W with supporting documents.
            Marriage based AOS, NBC
            07/16/19: Concurrent filing - Chicago, IL
            07/19/19: Package delivered
            07/28/19: Rcvd 4 Text Messages
            08/09/19: Biometrics Notification & Biometrics done (walk-in)
            11/15/19: Ready to Be Scheduled for Interview
            ​​​​​​11/18/19: Got the courtesy letter for I-693
            12/09/19: USCIS Interview Notice
            12/18/19: EAD/AP approved
            12/23/19: Comb Card Received
            ​​​​​​1/9/20: Interview, "New Card Is Being Produced."
            1/10/20: I-130 & I-485 "Case Was Approved"
            1/17/20: Green Card in hand.

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            • #7
              Think I found the answer, as per a memorandum. No affidavit of support needed in addition to the 864W if beneficiary has 40 social security credits:

              “The question has recently arisen: Is an affidavit of support still required if, at the time the alien seeks permanent residence through admission or adjustment of status, the alien can show that he or she already has worked, or can be credited with, 40 qualifying quarters of coverage?

              The policy of the Service is that an affidavit of support is not required if, at the time the alien seeks permanent residence through admission or adjustment of status, the alien can show that he or she already has worked, or can be credited with, 40 qualifying quarters of coverage.

              The basis for this policy is that it represents the most reasonable interpretation of INA §213A(a)(3)(A) and 8 C.F.R. §213a.2(e)(1)(i)(B). The obligations under the Form I-864 come into force when the sponsored alien acquires permanent residence. But if, at that time, the sponsored alien already has worked, or can be credited with, 40 qualifying quarters of coverage, then the obligation will expire at the very moment that it begins. Requiring the affidavit of support in this situation, therefore, would serve no purpose.”


              US Citizen filing on behalf of my spouse
              FO: St. Louis, MO
              10/03/19 documents mailed
              10/07/19 package received
              12/05/19 RFIE received in mail
              12/12/19 response to RFIE received by USCIS
              02/03/20 biometrics completed
              04/06/20 EAD approved, card being produced
              04/09/20 Case is Ready to be Scheduled for Interview
              07/02/20 Interview has been scheduled (waiting for notice)
              08/27/20 Interview/Card being produced!
              08/28/20 I-485 and I-130 Approved
              09/04/20 Card was mailed to me
              09/10/20 GC in hand

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by didoesque View Post
                Think I found the answer, as per a memorandum. No affidavit of support needed in addition to the 864W if beneficiary has 40 social security credits:

                “The question has recently arisen: Is an affidavit of support still required if, at the time the alien seeks permanent residence through admission or adjustment of status, the alien can show that he or she already has worked, or can be credited with, 40 qualifying quarters of coverage?

                The policy of the Service is that an affidavit of support is not required if, at the time the alien seeks permanent residence through admission or adjustment of status, the alien can show that he or she already has worked, or can be credited with, 40 qualifying quarters of coverage.

                The basis for this policy is that it represents the most reasonable interpretation of INA §213A(a)(3)(A) and 8 C.F.R. §213a.2(e)(1)(i)(B). The obligations under the Form I-864 come into force when the sponsored alien acquires permanent residence. But if, at that time, the sponsored alien already has worked, or can be credited with, 40 qualifying quarters of coverage, then the obligation will expire at the very moment that it begins. Requiring the affidavit of support in this situation, therefore, would serve no purpose.”


                https://www.hsdl.org/?view&did=19655
                Good job. I knew someone just filed I-864W only and no RFIE.
                Marriage based AOS, NBC
                07/16/19: Concurrent filing - Chicago, IL
                07/19/19: Package delivered
                07/28/19: Rcvd 4 Text Messages
                08/09/19: Biometrics Notification & Biometrics done (walk-in)
                11/15/19: Ready to Be Scheduled for Interview
                ​​​​​​11/18/19: Got the courtesy letter for I-693
                12/09/19: USCIS Interview Notice
                12/18/19: EAD/AP approved
                12/23/19: Comb Card Received
                ​​​​​​1/9/20: Interview, "New Card Is Being Produced."
                1/10/20: I-130 & I-485 "Case Was Approved"
                1/17/20: Green Card in hand.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by MarcWindsor View Post

                  Good job. I knew someone just filed I-864W only and no RFIE.
                  Thanks! It must have been overlooked or misplaced when we filed the original package.
                  Last edited by didoesque; 12-06-2019, 02:43 PM.
                  US Citizen filing on behalf of my spouse
                  FO: St. Louis, MO
                  10/03/19 documents mailed
                  10/07/19 package received
                  12/05/19 RFIE received in mail
                  12/12/19 response to RFIE received by USCIS
                  02/03/20 biometrics completed
                  04/06/20 EAD approved, card being produced
                  04/09/20 Case is Ready to be Scheduled for Interview
                  07/02/20 Interview has been scheduled (waiting for notice)
                  08/27/20 Interview/Card being produced!
                  08/28/20 I-485 and I-130 Approved
                  09/04/20 Card was mailed to me
                  09/10/20 GC in hand

                  Comment

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