All F3s

[Kamran Khan]

Proposal of cir

Immigration Reform how f3 will get visas in my opinion
1. F3 after 18 month CIR law enacted will be eliminated
2. Adult children less than 31 will be called as F1 or F2 (recent F1 and F2 will become immediate relatives and out of wait time)
3. Adult married children over 31 years of age after 18 month of law only can apply by merit base system
4. Adult married children over 31 who have already applied will divide into two categories. One who applied before oct 2009 and 2nd who applied after this
5. First category will get visa faster by reducing backlogs by different means within few months may be 18 months. 2nd category will transfer into merit base system and will get visa.
Please comment because the language of CIR proposal is very confusing and all the forums are discussing siblings of US citizen we need to discuss F3 also

[dhira_98]

Where did you get Oct 2009. This date is mentioned in section 217(a)3 of the bill. But I could not find section 217(a)3 in the bill.

Immigration Reform how f3 will get visas in my opinion
1. F3 after 18 month CIR law enacted will be eliminated
2. Adult children less than 31 will be called as F1 or F2 (recent F1 and F2 will become immediate relatives and out of wait time)
3. Adult married children over 31 years of age after 18 month of law only can apply by merit base system
4. Adult married children over 31 who have already applied will divide into two categories. One who applied before oct 2009 and 2nd who applied after this
5. First category will get visa faster by reducing backlogs by different means within few months may be 18 months. 2nd category will transfer into merit base system and will get visa.
Please comment because the language of CIR proposal is very confusing and all the forums are discussing siblings of US citizen we need to discuss F3 also

[netkit]

F2B+F3A and F3B+F4

Immigration Reform how f3 will get visas in my opinion


1. F3 after 18 month CIR law enacted will be eliminated
2. Adult children less than 31 will be called as F1 or F2 (recent F1 and F2 will become immediate relatives and out of wait time)
3. Adult married children over 31 years of age after 18 month of law only can apply by merit base system
4. Adult married children over 31 who have already applied will divide into two categories. One who applied before oct 2009 and 2nd who applied after this
5. First category will get visa faster by reducing backlogs by different means within few months may be 18 months. 2nd category will transfer into merit base system and will get visa.
Please comment because the language of CIR proposal is very confusing and all the forums are discussing siblings of US citizen we need to discuss F3 also

My interpretation for this bill is:

1) Family based category F1 and F2A will be eliminated and all those pending application will be treated as immediate relatives and their case will become current after passing of this bill.

2) F2B will remain intact

2) F3 category will be splited .
a) (F3A) If the Beneficiary age is below 31 years at time of PD.They will join the category F2B. So the new category will be F2B + F3A

b) (F3B) If the beneficiary age is above 31 years at the time of PD. They will join category F4. So the new category will be F3B+F4.

3) Category (F3B+F4) will be consider on points based system after 18 months of enactment of this bill. And latter on this category will be abolished
after clearing of backlogs and will remain there will be point based system. And anyone have relative (preference family or immediate relative) they
will off course will gain points.

If the above interpretation is correct then beneficiary within F3A will get maximum benefits because they are at least 4 years lagging to F2B.
And the big losers will be F3B because they are leading by at least one years to F4.

ALL READERS CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG AND LET US DISS CUSS THIS BILL FOR CURRENT F3 BENEFICIARIES.

[dhira_98]

Here is My interpretation of the CIR ACT:

After Date of Enactment of CIR
New Petitions:
1. Green card holder's spouse and children will be considered IMMIDIATE Family members <no wait time for new petitions).
2. Only you can apply for unmarried children and married children under 31.
3. Other family member (ie brother/sister) will get points for merit visa.

Already filed Petitions:
1. Petition Under F2A and F1 will be moved to IMMIDITE FAMILY category. < no wait time>
2. F2B, F3, and F4 will be merged to ONE category and
-- If you petition was filed more than 5 years ago, you will get a visa before year 2021.
-- If you petition was filed within last 5 years, you will get visa through 2022-2023.

See Merit Based Track-2 of CIR ACT section 2302.

[mtouch]

Cir 2013

My take on it:

ALL PENDING & APPROVED PETITIONS will proceed and should all go through in 10 years time more or less.

For F3 and F4: While waiting for PD to be current they may visit US for max 60 days.
F1 & F2 -> may avail of V visa : May live & work in US while waiting for PD to be current (if petition is not current within 3 years)

Sets worldwide ceiling on family-based visas at 567K until pre-May 2005 backlogs have been eliminated. Once backlog eliminated, worldwide ceiling drops to 127K.

**** **
For purposes of discussion, let's classify petitions as:

1. Purely family relationship based

a. Unmarried/minor children & spouse of LPR = IMMEDIATE (so will not anymore be included in new family-based preference category)
b. Parents of US citizens - will not be considered immediate family anymore; will have max annual allocation of 40K
c. Siblings of citizens (F4) - eliminated 18 months after enactment

New family-based preference category will only be 2 categories:

a. SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF CITIZENS
1) unmarried sons/daughters of citizens shall be allocated visas not to exceed 35 percent of the worldwide level (FORMERLY F1)
2) married sons/daughters of citizens who are under 31 years of age at the time of filing a petition under section 204 shall be allocated visas
not to exceed 25 percent of the worldwide level (FORMERLY F3)

b. SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF RESIDENTS = Unmarried adult sons/daughters of LPR (FORMERLY F2B) = max allocation of 40 percent of the worldwide level

2. Merit-based

All others not included in new family-based category may apply here. We don't know the procedure yet... whether a petition by a family member is required or if the applicant can apply by himself, much like the merit-based system in Canada & Australia.

[chsingh]

visa backlog reduction

we are heared abought new perposal for reduction into family visa backlog in new immigration reform.reform impact on family visa speed up news good for all f3 s

[puddy]

we are heared abought new perposal for reduction into family visa backlog in new immigration reform.reform impact on family visa speed up news good for all f3 s

Good to know and hope the keep moving fast.

[Ste1venson]

we are heared abought new perposal for reduction into family visa backlog in new immigration reform.reform impact on family visa speed up news good for all f3 s

[chsingh]

cir

My take on it:

ALL PENDING & APPROVED PETITIONS will proceed and should all go through in 10 years time more or less.

For F3 and F4: While waiting for PD to be current they may visit US for max 60 days.
F1 & F2 -> may avail of V visa : May live & work in US while waiting for PD to be current (if petition is not current within 3 years)

Sets worldwide ceiling on family-based visas at 567K until pre-May 2005 backlogs have been eliminated. Once backlog eliminated, worldwide ceiling drops to 127K.

**** **
For purposes of discussion, let's classify petitions as:

1. Purely family relationship based

a. Unmarried/minor children & spouse of LPR = IMMEDIATE (so will not anymore be included in new family-based preference category)
b. Parents of US citizens - will not be considered immediate family anymore; will have max annual allocation of 40K
c. Siblings of citizens (F4) - eliminated 18 months after enactment

New family-based preference category will only be 2 categories:

a. SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF CITIZENS
1) unmarried sons/daughters of citizens shall be allocated visas not to exceed 35 percent of the worldwide level (FORMERLY F1)
2) married sons/daughters of citizens who are under 31 years of age at the time of filing a petition under section 204 shall be allocated visas
not to exceed 25 percent of the worldwide level (FORMERLY F3)

b. SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF RESIDENTS = Unmarried adult sons/daughters of LPR (FORMERLY F2B) = max allocation of 40 percent of the worldwide level

2. Merit-based

All others not included in new family-based category may apply here. We don't know the procedure yet... whether a petition by a family member is required or if the applicant can apply by himself, much like the merit-based system in Canada & Australia.

mr mtoch what abought our pending application and which way way clear backlog of our cases.cir when becoming a law

[chsingh]

cir

mr mtoch what abought our pending application and which way way clear backlog of our cases.cir when becoming a law

my interption on cir is cir bill promise to clear the backlog of 4 million family member f3 are f4 catin next 10 year.but when cir bill become a law after first 18 monthes us citizen no longer allowed to bring brother and sister and married sin and daughter above age 30.but those currently waiting in the long visa backlog will be cleared.so now speedy progress under new visa adjustment .on the other hand cir good for waiting people and bad for new commers that category.but better from two slow progress vb.

[mtouch]

mr mtoch what abought our pending application and which way way clear backlog of our cases.cir when becoming a law

To clear backlog of pending applications:

• Under one component of this merit based system the Secretary will allocate merit-based immigrant visas beginning on October 1, 2014, for family-based petitions that were filed prior to enactment and have been pending for five years, long-term alien workers and other merit based immigrant workers.

• Between fiscal years 2015 and 2021, the Secretary shall follow a specific formula to allocate visas to those with family based petitions pending on the date of enactment and subject to some restrictions visas should be authorized in the order petitions were filed.

* In fiscal year 2022, the Secretary of State shall allocate visas to half the number of those that filed family based petitions after the date of enactment and had not had a visa issued by October 2021.

* In fiscal year 2023, the visas should be allocated to the other half of those that filed family based petitions after the date of enactment and who had not had a visa issued by October 2021. Visas allocated for these family based petitions will be issued based on the order in which petitions were filed.

**** In other words if you don't have much qualification, i.e. you don't have good employment background, did not finish college, not good in English, etc., it's still best to have the visa before Oct 1, 2014 so that you will not be subjected to the merit-based system.

[hfsitumo2001]

Where did you get the yeat 31 of age.

mr mtoch what abought our pending application and which way way clear backlog of our cases.cir when becoming a law

Hello ChSingh... Where can I find the CIR, is this the latest CIR we talking on?.

Frank

[chsingh]

cir

To clear backlog of pending applications:

• Under one component of this merit based system the Secretary will allocate merit-based immigrant visas beginning on October 1, 2014, for family-based petitions that were filed prior to enactment and have been pending for five years, long-term alien workers and other merit based immigrant workers.

• Between fiscal years 2015 and 2021, the Secretary shall follow a specific formula to allocate visas to those with family based petitions pending on the date of enactment and subject to some restrictions visas should be authorized in the order petitions were filed.

* In fiscal year 2022, the Secretary of State shall allocate visas to half the number of those that filed family based petitions after the date of enactment and had not had a visa issued by October 2021.

* In fiscal year 2023, the visas should be allocated to the other half of those that filed family based petitions after the date of enactment and who had not had a visa issued by October 2021. Visas allocated for these family based petitions will be issued based on the order in which petitions were filed.

**** In other words if you don't have much qualification, i.e. you don't have good employment background, did not finish college, not good in English, etc., it's still best to have the visa before Oct 1, 2014 so that you will not be subjected to the merit-based system.

that all right sir ji but I think my turn coming before October 2014.lots of applicant going reducing gone under 30 age as immidate reltive category.but photo is not clear ,hope to good.thanku for reply

[chsingh]

cir postmartem

Hello ChSingh... Where can I find the CIR, is this the latest CIR we talking on?.

Frank

no that is only postmortem of cir.and I hope cir is godgift for waiting people and clear the backlog with fast speed may be we are turn coming before oct 2014

[hfsitumo2001]

The Website of the latest CIR

To clear backlog of pending applications:

• Under one component of this merit based system the Secretary will allocate merit-based immigrant visas beginning on October 1, 2014, for family-based petitions that were filed prior to enactment and have been pending for five years, long-term alien workers and other merit based immigrant workers.

• Between fiscal years 2015 and 2021, the Secretary shall follow a specific formula to allocate visas to those with family based petitions pending on the date of enactment and subject to some restrictions visas should be authorized in the order petitions were filed.

* In fiscal year 2022, the Secretary of State shall allocate visas to half the number of those that filed family based petitions after the date of enactment and had not had a visa issued by October 2021.

* In fiscal year 2023, the visas should be allocated to the other half of those that filed family based petitions after the date of enactment and who had not had a visa issued by October 2021. Visas allocated for these family based petitions will be issued based on the order in which petitions were filed.

**** In other words if you don't have much qualification, i.e. you don't have good employment background, did not finish college, not good in English, etc., it's still best to have the visa before Oct 1, 2014 so that you will not be subjected to the merit-based system.

Mtouch,

Could you tell me the website of the latest CIR that we are talking about?, I tried to google it, but can not find it, It is the 2009 that I found and I can not find the article of age 31 or 30. 3 of my children are not entitled anymore if the age should be 21 when entering USA for visas. But if it is the time of PD, they will be entitled.

Thanks for your help.

Frank