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    Hi all,

    I was out of country for more than 6 months in 2001 the year i received my greencard. Since then I have not been abroad for more than 6 months in any single trip. Due to shortage on physical presence I am completing my time nowadays before i can apply for N-400.

    My question is wrt N400 document requirement page which ask applicants to send tax transcripts if any time after receiving GC applicant applicant has stayed out for more than 6 months. Common sense tells me that since that stay was almost 9 years ago i should not send any transcript with my N-400. Please advise if this approach of mine is ok.

    Thank you

  • #2
    Originally posted by greentea View Post
    Hi all,

    I was out of country for more than 6 months in 2001 the year i received my greencard. Since then I have not been abroad for more than 6 months in any single trip. Due to shortage on physical presence I am completing my time nowadays before i can apply for N-400.

    My question is wrt N400 document requirement page which ask applicants to send tax transcripts if any time after receiving GC applicant applicant has stayed out for more than 6 months. Common sense tells me that since that stay was almost 9 years ago i should not send any transcript with my N-400. Please advise if this approach of mine is ok.

    Thank you
    It doesn't hurt to provide the tax transcript for the year you were out for more than six months. I think USCIS is making sure you filed taxes for that year more than anything else. Even if you do not submit the document, USCIS gets the tax documents from IRS while evaluating your application to determine your financial good character
    N400 Application details
    Added in the citizenship tracker app(06/25/09 - 11/13/09)

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    • #3
      Hello HelpwithH1,

      Are you sure that USCIS will get tax info from IRS for everyone while evaluating the application to determine good financial good character?

      Jaykrishna

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      • #4
        Originally posted by helpwithh1 View Post
        It doesn't hurt to provide the tax transcript for the year you were out for more than six months. I think USCIS is making sure you filed taxes for that year more than anything else. Even if you do not submit the document, USCIS gets the tax documents from IRS while evaluating your application to determine your financial good character
        HelpwithH1-

        I donn't think " financial good character" even matter to USCIS. You can have filled for bankrupt e.t.c and still be ok for immigration purposes.

        Whether or not applicants are specifically asked on their interview letter to bring their tax returns, they should ALWAYS take their tax returns for the last 5 yrs with them to their interview, no matter what. And it's so important for applicants in NY district office because interviewing officers in NY district office do ask for it in 99.99%of the time. It's my advise that applicants should request tax transcripts from IRS to show to USCIS than tax returns because as per USCIS interim memo to adjudication officers, officers should demand to see tax transcript than copy of tax returns. Why? Because tax transcripts are official record, which means USCIS cannot doubt about the authencity of them unlike tax returns unless you would have certified copies of your tax returns which might cost you a lot of money and time to get them.

        I would also like to point it out why tax returns are so important to USCIS. Tax returns are asked particularly to verify or to find out- (a) applicants' current and previous address(s), (b) their current and previous marital status, (c) whether or not they have any children, (d) where and what kind of job applicants have been doing for the last 5 yrs, (e) whether or not they owe any money to IRS, (f) whether or not they have paid the REQUIRED taxes, (g) whether or not they are in violation of any IRS laws, because if they were single but filed their taxes under married status at any time, then USCIS will deny their citizenship application under the clause of having bad character. Because it will then prove that they are in a violation of IRS laws and also a person of a bad character because of cheating.

        And if applicants did not pay any of the required taxes then USCIS will deny your application unless you will submit an agreement letter from IRS, State, and local tax offices showing that you have filed a tax return or have arranged to pay the taxes you owe. And whenever you would have an arrangement with IRS for the payment of owed taxes then you MUST need to bring documentation from IRS, State and local tax offices showing the current status of your repayment program. Actually, tax returns are required for many reasons at the time of naturalization.

        Tax transcripts is also know as Form 1722. It takes only a few days to get all these in the mail if you would request these documents over the phone with them at 1-800-829-1040 or thru their website wherein you would need to fill out Form 4506-T. If you would prefer to get it within a few minutes then IRS can even fax them to you right away if you would provide them a fax number over the phone.

        It's is very important to know that you should take both- federal and state tax returns with you...Again, both (state and federal) tax returns.

        http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f4506t.pdf.




        Tax returns are relevant to the information that applicants provide on their citizenship application; thereby officer retains the right to demand these documents to verify those information.

        If someone has not filed any tax return because of having no income or earning a little income, then it would still be alright so long s/he could explain it to the officer as to why s/he did not file the tax return or why s/he wasn't required to file the tax returns. And even if someone has received public assistant or is on welfare, yet still it not a problem. But if someone is unemployed, then s/he must be prepared to show/explain to INS how s/he has been supporting himself/herself without the means of any visisble income; otherwise officer might deny their case in presuming that such person is being involved in some kind of shady/illegal activities. Submitting an affidavit from someone about being supported would do the trick.


        Good luck!
        Disclaimer:Not legal advise! Use at your own risk.
        ..............................................
        N-400 Timeline San Antonio Office
        06/07/2009 - Sent Application
        06/10/2009 - Delivered.
        06/12/2009 - Check Cashed
        06/19/2009 - Rec NOA
        06/22/2009 - Rec Biometrics Appt Letter
        07/02/2009 - Biometrics Appt
        07/13/2009 - Rec Interview Letter Appt
        08/24/2009 - Interview Date
        10/13/2009 - Rec Oath Appt Letter
        10/22/2009 - Oath Ceremony
        10/26/2009- Passport App
        11/06/2009- Passport Received

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        • #5
          Originally posted by poisontee View Post
          HelpwithH1-

          It's is very important to know that you should take both- federal and state tax returns with you...Again, both (state and federal) tax returns.

          http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f4506t.pdf.



          Good luck!
          Poisontee,
          Thanks for the detailed information on taxes.
          I have couple of questions...
          1) for the past 3 years, I have been filing my taxes in Sept time frame. I know that the normal last date is Apr-15th, but I called up IRS & state (CA), they informed me that as long as Im getting refund from govt, I have automatic extension of 6 months ( until Oct-15th). So, I was filing my taxes in the month of Sept. Sofar this has not caused any problems (like enquirers etc... from IRS or state).
          Do you think it will have any impacts during N-400 interview?

          2) obtaining tax transcripts costs 57bux / each year. Isnt it expensive to get all the 5yrs (i,e, 57$ * 5 ) ?

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          • #6
            Thanks Poisontee that was very informative, to be on safe side I called up IRS 1-800-829-1040 the number you gave. How do I get State returns?

            Hello Nags,

            Are you sure, I called IRS this morning and requested my transcripts, they did not charge anything?

            Thanks

            Jaykrishna

            Did I call the right number

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            • #7
              Originally posted by jaykrishna View Post
              Thanks Poisontee that was very informative, to be on safe side I called up IRS 1-800-829-1040 the number you gave. How do I get State returns?

              Hello Nags,

              Are you sure, I called IRS this morning and requested my transcripts, they did not charge anything?

              Thanks

              Jaykrishna

              Did I call the right number
              The IRS does not charge any fees for sending you a copy of your tax return. However they do send a detailed transcript, just a summary of your tax info which I think is good enough
              What I did was fill out a IRS form(do not know the form number), each form for three years of taxes and mail them to local office(Fresno in Ca).
              I got the tax transcripts in four weeks, long before my interview was scheduled.
              N400 Application details
              Added in the citizenship tracker app(06/25/09 - 11/13/09)

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              • #8
                Originally posted by helpwithh1 View Post
                The IRS does not charge any fees for sending you a copy of your tax return. However they do send a detailed transcript, just a summary of your tax info which I think is good enough
                What I did was fill out a IRS form(do not know the form number), each form for three years of taxes and mail them to local office(Fresno in Ca).
                I got the tax transcripts in four weeks, long before my interview was scheduled.
                How are the tax transcripts different then the copies of tax return I have. Because what I filled they will just send me copies for those anyways right?

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