U.s. Citizenship for my baby girl...

[COSMOPOLITAN]

Establishing a Parent's Residency for a Child Born Outside of the U.S.

Hi there,I moved legally from France to Florida in October 1995, I lived and worked permanently there until April 2002 as green card holder, august 2000 I became a U.S. citizen.

May 2011, My wife, my baby girl (born outside the U.S. soil) and I went to our U.S. Consulate to register our baby and also to apply for a SSN and a U.S. passport.

2 local agents with the presence of our U.S consul verified:
My American passport, my U.S. voter identification, my citizenship certificate and several official documents proving that I have permanently lived in the U.S soil for almost 7 years. Then they made me complete all forms and asked me to pay the appropriate fees.

After that our U.S. consulate administration kept calling me by phone and sending emails:" We need more evidence that you have lived permanetly in the U.S. for 5 years" (Form DS-5507: Affidavit of physical presence).

Here is the list of the official documents I sent them:
--- Primary proves of evidences:1 -
- Transcript of schedule of work from SSA; 1996,97,98,99 and 2000
- Copies of Tax return that I still had in my possession, 1999 and 2000
- Copy of my Florida Id issued in 1996
- Copy of my first work permit issued by the INS office in F.L. in 1996
- Copy of my F.L .driver license issued in 1997.

--- Secondary proves of evidences:
1 - A contract and schedule of payments under my name from a nationwide landlord company showing that I have lives in the same Apt during 4 years and 8 months
2 - Several banking and financial documents from 1996 to 2002.
3 - Several paid bills...
4 - My U.S passport showing that I was in the U.S. until April 2002.
After all that our Abroad administration sent me an email asking"WE NEED MORES EVIDENCE and you need to pay the same fees again"

A U.S passport costs $120 for a child born inside the U.S. soil and less that 2 weeks to get it.I already have spent $1400 (all included) without getting any result,
this issue has been going on since spring 2011.

Would that be possible for anyone telling me what to do or giving some advices ?

[nwctzn]

Establishing a Parent's Residency for a Child Born Outside of the U.S.

Hi there,I moved legally from France to Florida in October 1995, I lived and worked permanently there until April 2002 as green card holder, august 2000 I became a U.S. citizen.

May 2011, My wife, my baby girl (born outside the U.S. soil) and I went to our U.S. Consulate to register our baby and also to apply for a SSN and a U.S. passport.

2 local agents with the presence of our U.S consul verified:
My American passport, my U.S. voter identification, my citizenship certificate and several official documents proving that I have permanently lived in the U.S soil for almost 7 years. Then they made me complete all forms and asked me to pay the appropriate fees.

After that our U.S. consulate administration kept calling me by phone and sending emails:" We need more evidence that you have lived permanetly in the U.S. for 5 years" (Form DS-5507: Affidavit of physical presence).

Here is the list of the official documents I sent them:
--- Primary proves of evidences:1 -
- Transcript of schedule of work from SSA; 1996,97,98,99 and 2000
- Copies of Tax return that I still had in my possession, 1999 and 2000
- Copy of my Florida Id issued in 1996
- Copy of my first work permit issued by the INS office in F.L. in 1996
- Copy of my F.L .driver license issued in 1997.

--- Secondary proves of evidences:
1 - A contract and schedule of payments under my name from a nationwide landlord company showing that I have lives in the same Apt during 4 years and 8 months
2 - Several banking and financial documents from 1996 to 2002.
3 - Several paid bills...
4 - My U.S passport showing that I was in the U.S. until April 2002.
After all that our Abroad administration sent me an email asking"WE NEED MORES EVIDENCE and you need to pay the same fees again"

A U.S passport costs $120 for a child born inside the U.S. soil and less that 2 weeks to get it.I already have spent $1400 (all included) without getting any result,
this issue has been going on since spring 2011.

Would that be possible for anyone telling me what to do or giving some advices ?

I would talk to an immigration lawyer. Again, it costs more money, but at least you should be able to get a result.

Good luck!

[COSMOPOLITAN]

U.S citizenship via descent...

Why should I be subjected to hire a lawyer to get something simple and that is legally due ?

Thanks for you answer

[nwctzn]

Why should I be subjected to hire a lawyer to get something simple and that is legally due ?

Thanks for you answer

Now that I think of it, you can actually try to get help from your senator or congressman based on your last residence in the US. That will not cost any money and they usually are of help. Look them up on the Internet and contact their office detailing everything you wrote below.

Please let us know how it goes.

Best of luck!

[osweiti50]

Hi there,

Last year I got a bay while living abroad, I filed for him at the US Embassy in Amman/Jordan to get both Birth Certificate US Passport. The US Citizen Service at the Embassy asked me to bring with all my old passports both of US and Jordan along with Delivery Certificate from the hospital where he was born, Birth Certificate from Jordan Authorities....etc. At the appointment date I went to the Embassy along with my wife and the baby, they received us there and checked my Passports to verify that I resided in the US a period not less than 5 years, she faced difficulties checking the departure/arrival stamps on the passports pages where I helped her doing that. She kept my old passports and told me the they will inform me by email about the result of this interview. After 10 days or so I checked with them where the informed me every thing is ok. I visited the Embassy again and collected both my old passports and the baby's Birth Report.

If I my advise, please write down all the departure/arrival dates of entry to the US and your own country ( I know there is no departure stamp when you leave the US but there should be arrival at the port of entry in your original country or else.

[COSMOPOLITAN]

Arbitrariness ???

Hello / Ahlane !
If only things would have gone that easy for us, The U.S. consulate has a "perverse" pleasure asking us more and more evidences.
Take a look at whole list We already have given them
Arbitrariness that resembles to of some consulate from some Banana Republic.

Thank you / Chokrane !

[nwctzn]

Hello / Ahlane !
If only things would have gone that easy for us, The U.S. consulate has a "perverse" pleasure asking us more and more evidences.
Take a look at whole list We already have given them
Arbitrariness that resembles to of some consulate from some Banana Republic.

Thank you / Chokrane !

Do they specify what additional evidence they need?

As I suggested before, if this drags on, I would consult with the office of your representative or senator. I heard that they are pretty efficient in resolving passport and citizenship related issues.

[COSMOPOLITAN]

Does anyone know who's my Senator or my Representative ?

Hi all,
I used to live osceola county, Florida, now I live in France.
Does anyone know who is my Representative or Senator

[nwctzn]

Hi all,
I used to live osceola county, Florida, now I live in France.
Does anyone know who is my Representative or Senator

You can search for them on the Internet. Just search for "Florida Senators" and "Florida Representatives"

[Dtrain]

Dears nwctzn and COSMOPOLITAN

I'm surprised that U.S. consulate asks for proof of residency while the father already has (a) US passport and that shows he is a US Citizen (b) Naturalization Certificate and that's another proof that shows he completed residency requirement to be a US Citizen. What confused me is, why do they think someone can get US Citizenship easily.

Hi nwctzn, do you think all this complication is because of only one parent is a US citizen? or this applies to all (both parents), I mean if both parents are US citizens do they still have to go on the same complicated process?. Please can you shed some light there, because I'm pretty sure so many would be happy to read the input and understand the complications.

Very strange because I haven't had anybody (Adults) getting US citizenship while residing outside, unless he is in the military.

[nwctzn]

Dears nwctzn and COSMOPOLITAN

I'm surprised that U.S. consulate asks for proof of residency while the father already has (a) US passport and that shows he is a US Citizen (b) Naturalization Certificate and that's another proof that shows he completed residency requirement to be a US Citizen. What confused me is, why do they think someone can get US Citizenship easily.

Hi nwctzn, do you think all this complication is because of only one parent is a US citizen? or this applies to all (both parents), I mean if both parents are US citizens do they still have to go on the same complicated process?. Please can you shed some light there, because I'm pretty sure so many would be happy to read the input and understand the complications.

Very strange because I haven't had anybody (Adults) getting US citizenship while residing outside, unless he is in the military.

There are certain rules: Even if you are a US citizen, you have to have resided in the US for a certain time before claiming citizenship for children/relatives etc.

See the USCIS website for details.

In cosmopolitan's case, I think there is really a mess-up since it looks like he is producing all evidence but they are still giving him a hard time. I hope that this is resolved some time soon for him.

[COSMOPOLITAN]

Arbitrary decision ?

Hi all,
I have done everything possible to prove that i have lived and worked permanently in the U.S soil no less than 5 years as required by law.
But this Consulate is reputed to be reluctant...
Do you think that some letters from American friends stating my residency in the U.S. would be legally relevant and useful

I also have writing to our Representative and Senator asking them to act in our favor.

[osweiti50]

Hi,

I don't think friends letters will help. If you take a look at the US Embassy in Amman site
you will find something interesting, they even don't accept employers verification letters nor utility bills etc as proof for 5 years residency in US. In my baby case they just went through my old Passports pages and checked the arrival/departure stamps and compared some with the admission stamps of the US immigration at the point of entry in the US.
One point more, I am aware that in the past when someone needed to cross the borders (land transportation) from/to Canada he/she didn't need to show his/her Passport at the borders. I am not sure if you have all the admission stamps on your passport that prove your 5 residency! Anyhow I hope you will overcome all these complications in the near future.

[nwctzn]

Hi all,
I have done everything possible to prove that i have lived and worked permanently in the U.S soil no less than 5 years as required by law.
But this Consulate is reputed to be reluctant...
Do you think that some letters from American friends stating my residency in the U.S. would be legally relevant and useful

I also have writing to our Representative and Senator asking them to act in our favor.

Letters might not help. However, did you use your credit card while in the US? Or paid bills or any other documented activity? That might be some proof.

If you have credit card statements that show that you used your card(s) in the US, they will be hopefully somewhat convinced.

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[osweiti50]

I personally asked this question to the consul during the process of applying CRBA ( Consulate Report of Birth Abroad) for my child last year and simply the answer I got was the way the Dept of States operates is different from the way USCIS operates. To this end you need to abide by the rules.

But again I am still not sure why doesn't he show them the arrival/departure stamps on his Passport pages as these are the primary evidence for 5 years residence in the US. That happened with me last year and that was the only evidence I presented to them as per their request and all went fine.