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  • #16
    POA via courier

    Originally posted by iunknown View Post
    Hi all:

    First of all thanks for this thread as I learned a lot about getting the Power of Attorney attested at Indian Consulate, New York. I would like to share my experience and it would be beneficial for everyone.

    We (both me and my wife) have US Passports and also we have PIO cards. We are also in the process of converting our PIO to OCI. We bought a property in India last year and for some revenue related works, we had to give a Power of Attorney to our family friend. Here are the details:

    1) Get the Power of Attorney written with all details. The specific purpose for which you are giving the Power of Attorney, the property details etc. Be very specific. Include your passport info, your PIO or OCI info, your father's name, etc.

    2) Print the POA in plain paper. We chose legal sized paper because of the following reasons:

    i) Our POA has more than 2 pages.
    ii) Printing it in legal sized papers will give you some space for affixing your photographs, witness names, address and signatures and notary signatures

    3) Since the POA is from both of us (me and my wife). We affixed passport sized photographs at the first page (top right and left).

    4) At the bottom of every page (except the last page), we have put our signatures

    5) At the last page we specify our name and also two witnesses. List the witness names and addresses.

    6) Sign it in front of the notary (also the witnesses). NOTARIZE ALL SIGNATURES. In our case, we had four signatures at last page (including two witness signatures) and two signatures at first and second page. So, there are total 8 . NOTARIZE ALL signatures with notary seal.

    7) Sign on top of the photograph (towards the bottom). No need to notarize the signature on the photographs


    Once this is done, take this for Apostille. Since we have PIO (or OCI) cards, the POA needs to be apostilled. It is a very easy process. I drove to Trenton (capital of NJ) and the DORES (Division Of Revenue and Enterprise Services) office is in State Street. There are paid parking available one block from this building for $8-$10 for the whole day. Please carry a self addressed pre-paid envelop with you (I took FedEx next day shipping). The receptionist will ask you to go to the 4th floor and you can give the documents at the counter of the 4th floor. You need to sign a small application form (with your name, address and the country in which this document will be used) and a copy of this application will be given to you as evidence. Depending on the type of service you take, please provide a check (personal checks are fine). In NJ there is a service with 8.5 hours turnaround time and it costs $40. There are other ones available (like 2 hours, 1 hour etc., but they are very expensive). The whole process at Trenton took less than 10 minutes.

    Since I reached Trenton in the early morning (before 9:00am ), they sent the document the same day itself and I received it on the next day(FedEx).

    You can also send it to Trenton and in that case, you can fill out the application form which is available in the State of NJ web site.

    The Apostille is an additional page printed and stapled as the first page. Please do not remove the staple. Take two copies of the entire POA without removing the staple

    Now take this to the Indian Consulate. Please carry the following items with you:

    1) Original passports of both the parties. Only one person needs to be there, but please make sure to carry both the passports.

    2) Take copies of passports and other ID proofs of both the parties (driver's license is fine).

    3) Though I took address proof of witnesses, I was told that the consulate doesn't care about the witness info.

    At the consulate, they will ask you to provide the original POA, copy of POA, original passports, copies of passports and ID proofs (Drivers licence). Pay $23 in cash (they DO NOT accept personal checks, credit cards etc.). If you are able to reach the Consulate early in the morning (around 9:00am) and able to provide the documents before 11:00am, you will get the documents back by 12:30pm. Otherwise, you will have to wait until 4:30pm.

    At consulate, they put the seals on the page where the Apostille (in my case the first page), on each photographs and then on every page. They DO NOT put seals on your signature in last page because they told me that they are doing on the Apostille section. Seals are also visible on the last page and the staple is not removed. So, that should be fine.

    Overall, the process is not much complicated. But please make sure that you are prepared and everything is with you.
    Hi All,

    I wanted to know if I can get the POA via courier or it is mandatory to be present at embassy? I am staying in Ohio state. Do I need to go NY consulate for POA? Please confirm.


    Thanks,
    Amol.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by amollg View Post
      Hi All,

      I wanted to know if I can get the POA via courier or it is mandatory to be present at embassy? I am staying in Ohio state. Do I need to go NY consulate for POA? Please confirm.


      Thanks,
      Amol.
      No, you do not need to be physically present at the Indian Consulate in NYC to get the POA. However, you need to do the following:

      1) The document MUST be apostilled (regardless of whether you are Indian Citizen or US Citizen). Please make sure that you notarize all signatures (including the witness signatures) before taking it to be apostilled.
      2) Include one or two photocopies of all your documents
      3) Include copies of your passports, proof of residence (driver's license or any other valid address proof documents). If POA is from multiple parties (e.g. husband and wife), please include the copies of documents of both of the parties.
      4) There is a miscellaneous services application form available on the Indian Consulate web site. Please fill that and affix a passport size photo at the top of the application form.
      5) Enclose a money order or certified check (Consulate does not accept personal checks) for $23 for each POA (regardless of the number of pages)

      Include a self addressed envelope (FedEX, UPS or USPS Priority/Express Mail) that can be tracked

      Also include a note about the service (sort of covering letter) and asking them to send this through your self addressed envelope.


      -iunknown

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      • #18
        Originally posted by iunknown View Post
        No, you do not need to be physically present at the Indian Consulate in NYC to get the POA. However, you need to do the following:

        1) The document MUST be apostilled (regardless of whether you are Indian Citizen or US Citizen). Please make sure that you notarize all signatures (including the witness signatures) before taking it to be apostilled.
        2) Include one or two photocopies of all your documents
        3) Include copies of your passports, proof of residence (driver's license or any other valid address proof documents). If POA is from multiple parties (e.g. husband and wife), please include the copies of documents of both of the parties.
        4) There is a miscellaneous services application form available on the Indian Consulate web site. Please fill that and affix a passport size photo at the top of the application form.
        5) Enclose a money order or certified check (Consulate does not accept personal checks) for $23 for each POA (regardless of the number of pages)

        Include a self addressed envelope (FedEX, UPS or USPS Priority/Express Mail) that can be tracked

        Also include a note about the service (sort of covering letter) and asking them to send this through your self addressed envelope.


        -iunknown
        Hi, Thanks for all the above information.
        Can you please help me to know, do I have to send original passport via mail to embassy? or only notarized passport copy will work?

        Thanks
        Suhas Parkar

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        • #19
          Buying Land in India .. can i do land registration from USA.

          Hi All,

          Im citizen of India holding Indian passport want to buy property in India Andhra Pradesh.I cant travel now is there any way that landlord can register land on my name in presence of my father.

          Please educate me on the process and steps to be taken care of. I heard POA is required to do so. Please guide.

          Regards,
          Bhargavi.

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          • #20
            validity of POA attestation,

            hi,

            can someone tell me about, the attestation by embassy is valid for how many days? so I will make my father to notarize it in India (Tamil nadu) Registrar office before it becomes invalid?

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            • #21
              Originally posted by [email protected] View Post
              Hi All,

              Im citizen of India holding Indian passport want to buy property in India Andhra Pradesh.I cant travel now is there any way that landlord can register land on my name in presence of my father.

              Please educate me on the process and steps to be taken care of. I heard POA is required to do so. Please guide.

              Regards,
              Bhargavi.
              In that case you have to give POA (Power Of Attorney) to your father so that he can perform this transaction on behalf of yourself. Please check with a lawyer in India to write a POA for this purpose (with all the specifics). Lawyers in India can provide the full details as they have these types of drafts readily available. Once it is drafted, you can get it attested in Indian consulate in New York.

              Please note that you do NOT need the POA in stamp paper from India. Since you are getting it attested here in New York consulate, you only need to do that in plain paper. Once you have that, then please follow the instructions mentioned in the beginning of this thread.

              - - - Updated - - -

              Originally posted by VINOKPM View Post
              hi,

              can someone tell me about, the attestation by embassy is valid for how many days? so I will make my father to notarize it in India (Tamil nadu) Registrar office before it becomes invalid?
              I think it is 1 month. Please check the registration office in India as they can provide the exact details.

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              • #22
                I am not taking the two witnesses to the consulate, so do I need to get their signatures notarized?

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                • #23
                  Additional Info

                  Thank you to the original provider of this information. It was really helpful. I am an Indian passport holder and needed to attest Power of Attorney. My parents sent me the power of attorney via fedex. Here are details of my visit and hopefully can guide others:

                  Take Original and one photocopy of the following documents:

                  1. Power of Attorney (I am sure you already have your passport size photo on it)
                  2. Passport (Photocopies of First, last and visa pages)
                  3. Address Proof (I carried Driving license and Electricity bill). Anyone would have sufficed.
                  4. I also took my EAD card (I am on OPT) and I-20 documents just in case.

                  I know this is no new information but my main point is regarding witnesses. Neither did I have any witness signatures or witnesses accompany me nor did they mention the word Witness to me. All you have to do is just sign on every page of your POA (both original and photocopy) in the presence of embassy officials.

                  The embassy has info saying time for submission of documents are 9 AM - 11:30 AM. I reached at 11:25 AM and still ended up getting my documents at 12:30 (Next slot is 4:30 - 5:00). I guess it depends on the day you are going and the number of people that day (I went on 13th Dec, 2016 - Tuesday). If you reach later than 11:30 AM, you won't be given a token. But the guard was kind enough to allow people who came after 11:30 to submit documents even without token. You also have a copier there in case you forget to take photocopies of any documents or need additional.

                  The embassy is near to Central park with less than 5 mins of walk from there.

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                  • #24
                    Do you need to send original US Passport to CGINY to get POA attested by mail.

                    Originally posted by SuhasParkar View Post
                    Hi, Thanks for all the above information.
                    Can you please help me to know, do I have to send original passport via mail to embassy? or only notarized passport copy will work?

                    Thanks
                    Suhas Parkar
                    Thanks to everyone who have shared their experiences. I am a US PP holder and also hold OCI. I am planning to get my POA attested at CGINY vial mail. Based on reading the threads on this post, I understand, I must send:application for misc services, the apostilled POA, notarized copy of drivers license (for proof of address), and notarized copy of US passport. However, when I look at the misc. application form on CGINY Website, it seems to indicate that one must send the original passport. Can someone who has done this recently via mail please confirm or deny? Thanks in advance.

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                    • #25
                      Got POA from NY Consulate

                      I got POA from NY consulate recently and thought about sharing my experience.

                      I am indian citizen on H1B.. So this may not apply to US citizens/OCI/GC holders..

                      The process is very smooth if you have all the documents.. It took me exactly 3 minutes at the counter ( Had to wait 2 hours before my # was called).. Then 1 hour to collect stamped document..
                      Documents needed:
                      1. Two sets of POA - one you get back stamped and consulate keeps one. Be sure to put your passport # on each page of the POA. You need to sign in front of the officer. Keep one copy as backup just in case.
                      2. Misc application form - Download and fill Misc services form from the website. Self explanatory. Need PP size photo
                      3. Original passport - Consulate takes the original PP and returns back with stamped POA.
                      4. First and last page of PP - two copies
                      5. Driving License - Two copies Or any other Utility Bill for address proof
                      6. Original - I797
                      7. Two copies of I-797
                      8. $ 23 for each page of POA. So if you have 2 pages on POA then carry $46. Lot of people thought it is $23 for complete POA irrespective of # of pages. That's not true. Lot of them had to run to ATM to get extra cash. carry exact change. Plus carry some 1's if you need to make copies of any documents at the consulate. they charge $1 per copy and ask for exact change. There is Citibank ATM on Madison Ave ( take left on Madison, ATM is on right). No credit/debit/checks accepted.

                      Carry extra copies of Misc service form in case you filled out wrong and need one there.
                      Arrive as early as you can. Lot of people do not carry documents/cash/copies and take a lot of time at the counter. You will save lot of time if there are not many people ahead of you. So go early.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by VINOKPM View Post
                        hi,

                        can someone tell me about, the attestation by embassy is valid for how many days? so I will make my father to notarize it in India (Tamil nadu) Registrar office before it becomes invalid?
                        30 days.. but you can check.

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                        • #27
                          POA attestion through mail

                          Originally posted by the_amk View Post
                          Thanks to everyone who have shared their experiences. I am a US PP holder and also hold OCI. I am planning to get my POA attested at CGINY vial mail. Based on reading the threads on this post, I understand, I must send:application for misc services, the apostilled POA, notarized copy of drivers license (for proof of address), and notarized copy of US passport. However, when I look at the misc. application form on CGINY Website, it seems to indicate that one must send the original passport. Can someone who has done this recently via mail please confirm or deny? Thanks in advance.
                          HI,
                          I am Indian passport holder & planning to attest POA through GCINY via mail. Pls share me the detailed process to do so.
                          I am unable to understand the process esp appostilled POA and other documents to be sent thru mail
                          Kindly suggest.

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                          • #28
                            Hi all,
                            Thanks to all who shared their experience here. Below is my experience and everything went smooth.

                            Below are the documents that I took.

                            1. Power of Attorney (Photo is optional and I suggest you to paste your photo in the last page of POA where you sign)
                            2. Passport (Photocopies of all non empty pages such as first, last , Visa and the pages where immigration seals are placed)
                            3. Address Proof (Gas and Electricity bills.). Also submitted my salary slip but not required to do so.
                            4. I also took i797A extension approval copies as my visa was expired

                            They charged me $23 only. I submitted two copies of POA. One for me and one for embassy to keep it as record. Some people here stated that they paid $46. But I paid only $23 and when they asked told them one for your reference. They were okay with it and didn't double charge me.

                            POA notary is done in office at the basement of Indian Embassy. When you enter the glass door, take a left door again. There will be a guy standing near by Xerox machine and distributing tokens. I reached there at 11 AM and Submitted the docs at 12 AM. I was asked to come after 1 PM. But they brought back the signed copies at 12.45 PM itself.

                            Other things:
                            1. You can get witness signature before going to Embassy. But you must sign in POA while you submit the docs to Embassy. You should not pre-sign the documents.
                            2. Self attestation in all other proof documents can be done in advance.
                            3. GPS in iPhone doesn't work properly in NYC. So if you are talking your car, pre-plan the parking spot near by Embassy and park there itself. Street parking would be hard to find. (Many streets were blocked when I went and I had to go 2 miles further as my GPS was not working and I couldn't find parking myself by looking at the road signs).

                            Regards,
                            Chandru

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                            • #29
                              Complete summary - from authoritative source

                              Hello All,

                              After going thru the threads posted here I have realized there are significant amount of ambiguities and in fact in few places - incorrect information. I was responsible till late 2015 and directly dealt with exactly the topic in the discussion. That being said, I have listed below the correct procedure to execute.

                              MAIN DOCUMENT DETAILS:

                              1. It should be in plain paper preferably A4/Letter or A3/Legal.
                              2. It is NOT recommended to provide PoA using Indian court issued so-called "stamp" paper.
                              3. It is NOT recommended to attach any so-called "Revenue" stamps.
                              4. It is NOT recommended to attach any photographs or finger prints.
                              5. The correct terminology dictates the person(s) to whom power of attorney is being given is indicated as "ATTORNEY" and such should be used in the final page where signature is present, of the attorney. [It is very debatable topic - if you happen to have multiple attorneys, in which case a proper law firm in India as the attorney is more appropriate].
                              6. The correct terminology is "PRINCIPAL" and there can be multiple principals. Such should be used in the final page where signature is present, of the principal(s).
                              7. All pages of the PoA should have in footer or header Page X of Y (highly recommended, especially when subjected to being apostilled. I have seen certain states' policies dictate this as a requirement)
                              8. There is NO need to initial on every page but the final page should have signatures of both principal(s) and attorney.
                              9. Attorney signatures can be obtained in advance. Example - the PoA is first sent to India, attorney signs and returns back, which subsequently is submitted to the embassy.
                              10. There is NO need to furnish identity proof of the attorney, except signature. This will be verified when registering the PoA in India.
                              11. Contrary to what is stated here, there are NO set rules regarding format and structure of the PoA and also the subsequent notarization (if applicable). However, the preferred language is English for the PoA. Regional/Hindi languages are supported however there might be significant delays in getting the document attested.
                              12. Within the PoA there is no explicit need to state personal identification criteria of attorney or principal like passport/DL/voter/Adhar numbers however it's imperative to have son/daughter of ____, and in conjunction - husband/wife of _______ (if married) as that's what is used regionally, In India. If siblings, then it can also be added - brother/sister of __________. (Please consult with attorneys specializing in Indian laws governing power of attorney for complex cases like orphans/adopted/etc.)

                              Please remember - this document's audience is NOT US but India. Verbiage/terminology/context and sentence structuring should follow the Indian Court standards.

                              CATEGORY - INDIAN CITIZENS

                              SUBMISSION: IN PERSON
                              [Cost $23 - in cash, exact change]

                              1. Carry the PoA and ONE copy of the same.
                              2. There is NO need to notarize the copy.
                              3. Carry 2 photographs, passport size.
                              4. Carry ORIGINAL US residency proof - Green Card, Visa, EAD, etc.
                              5. Carry copy of #4 above, notarized.
                              6. Carry ORIGINAL passport.
                              7. Carry COPY of passport, all pages which are NOT blank. No need to notarize passport pages.
                              8. If current passport does not have US residence address, carry ORIGINAL proof of address, preferred: driving license.
                              9. Copy of driving license, both sides, notarized.
                              10. There is NO need to add witnesses to the signatures. You're required to sign the PoA at the counter.

                              11. There is NO need to apostille the PoA. However, many do as it lends credibility to the final document, especially in India. In which case:
                              Below is applicable only when PoA is apostilled
                              12. Complete form in website and attach photograph.
                              13. Notarize just this form. [You are still not required to notarize the copy of the PoA]
                              14. In this case, you'll only submit what's stated in above steps along with 11 and 12. You are NOT required to sign in presence. You are NOT required to have witnesses or witness signatures. As you've apostle the original PoA, principal's and attorney signatures are already completed.
                              15. You'll carry 1 extra photograph as you've used up 1 (see step 3 above) in the form itself.
                              SUBMISSION - VIA POST
                              [Cost $23 - in cashier check/money order/draft. NO personal checks]

                              1. Approximately, it'll take 10 business days or less to return.
                              2. Please follow ALL steps as outlined above, except 10. Instead you'll follow steps 1 to 9 and then 11 to 13.
                              3. Use USPS - use either flat rate priority or priority express to send the documents.
                              4. Inside the flat rate envelope, containing all the document fold and provide another empty flat rate envelope of either priority or priority express. In this empty envelope, ensure to add the return label, pre-fixed.
                              5. With all the documents add the financial instrument for $23.

                              CATEGORY NON-INDIAN CITIZENS

                              SUBMISSION: IN PERSON
                              [Cost $23 - in cash, exact change]

                              1. Carry the APOSTILLED PoA and ONE copy of the same.
                              2. There is NO need to notarize the copy.
                              3. Carry 1 photograph, passport size.
                              4. Carry ORIGINAL Non-Indian Passport
                              5. Carry COPY of passport, all pages which are NOT blank. No need to notarize passport pages.
                              6. If current passport does not have US residence address, carry ORIGINAL proof of address, preferred: driving license.
                              7. Copy of driving license, both sides, notarized.
                              8. There is NO need to add witnesses to the signatures.
                              10. Complete form in website and attach photograph.
                              12. Notarize just this form. [You are still not required to notarize the copy of the PoA]
                              13. Submit at counter - as you've apostle the original PoA, principal's and attorney signatures are already completed.

                              SUBMISSION - VIA POST
                              [Cost $23 - in cashier check/money order/draft. NO personal checks]

                              1. Approximately, it'll take 10 business days or less to return.
                              2. Please follow ALL steps as outlined above.
                              3. Use USPS - use either flat rate priority or priority express to send the documents.
                              4. Inside the flat rate envelope, containing all the document fold and provide another empty flat rate envelope of either priority or priority express. In this empty envelope, ensure to add the return label, pre-fixed.
                              5. With all the documents add the financial instrument for $23.

                              ONLY for "VIA POST"
                              You are allowed to avoid sending the return envelope, pre-paid. In which case attach a second money order/cashier check for $25. In memo state - "for return processing <name of Principal(s)>"

                              POST POA ATTESTATION

                              1. Return PoA to attorney, or carry along with principal(s) if same is travelling to India.
                              2. Embassy can not provide any guidance regarding subsequent steps involved. It varies from state to state, in India.
                              3. It is safe to assume within 30 to 90 days of issuance of attested PoA, the same should be registered in the respective Indian state's regional Registrar office.
                              4. Almost in all States, execution of property dealings thru PoA requires the same to be registered in Registrar's office. This is different from notarization in India.
                              5. In many states, they will request for the presence of the principal(s) as their finger prints are registered/recorded along with their photos. This is where having an apostilled document comes in handy. However, this depends from state to state and may be subjected to actual display of current laws and regulations to the Registrar. Which is why its important to have an Indian Attorney conduct this operation in India, with Registrar.
                              6. Once again - Embassy can not provide ANY guidance or suggestions. Whether a Registrar accepts and records the PoA as-is or requests for presence of the principal(s) is completely arbitrary I have witnessed cases where within the same state, it varies. .

                              Please note - above information is provided as a need-to-know basis and is represented as my personal interpretation with no relevance to Indian Embassy - its procedures/regulations/laws or personnel. Any queries against "post POA" section, will remain unanswered.
                              Last edited by bmninada; 04-01-2017, 07:54 PM.

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                              • #30
                                Thanks so much for taking the time to provide such detailed and precise instructions

                                Big Thanks !!

                                Originally posted by bmninada View Post
                                Hello All,

                                After going thru the threads posted here I have realized there are significant amount of ambiguities and in fact in few places - incorrect information. I was responsible till late 2015 and directly dealt with exactly the topic in the discussion. That being said, I have listed below the correct procedure to execute.

                                MAIN DOCUMENT DETAILS:

                                1. It should be in plain paper preferably A4/Letter or A3/Legal.
                                2. It is NOT recommended to provide PoA using Indian court issued so-called "stamp" paper.
                                3. It is NOT recommended to attach any so-called "Revenue" stamps.
                                4. It is NOT recommended to attach any photographs or finger prints.
                                5. The correct terminology dictates the person(s) to whom power of attorney is being given is indicated as "ATTORNEY" and such should be used in the final page where signature is present, of the attorney. [It is very debatable topic - if you happen to have multiple attorneys, in which case a proper law firm in India as the attorney is more appropriate].
                                6. The correct terminology is "PRINCIPAL" and there can be multiple principals. Such should be used in the final page where signature is present, of the principal(s).
                                7. All pages of the PoA should have in footer or header Page X of Y (highly recommended, especially when subjected to being apostilled. I have seen certain states' policies dictate this as a requirement)
                                8. There is NO need to initial on every page but the final page should have signatures of both principal(s) and attorney.
                                9. Attorney signatures can be obtained in advance. Example - the PoA is first sent to India, attorney signs and returns back, which subsequently is submitted to the embassy.
                                10. There is NO need to furnish identity proof of the attorney, except signature. This will be verified when registering the PoA in India.
                                11. Contrary to what is stated here, there are NO set rules regarding format and structure of the PoA and also the subsequent notarization (if applicable). However, the preferred language is English for the PoA. Regional/Hindi languages are supported however there might be significant delays in getting the document attested.
                                12. Within the PoA there is no explicit need to state personal identification criteria of attorney or principal like passport/DL/voter/Adhar numbers however it's imperative to have son/daughter of ____, and in conjunction - husband/wife of _______ (if married) as that's what is used regionally, In India. If siblings, then it can also be added - brother/sister of __________. (Please consult with attorneys specializing in Indian laws governing power of attorney for complex cases like orphans/adopted/etc.)

                                Please remember - this document's audience is NOT US but India. Verbiage/terminology/context and sentence structuring should follow the Indian Court standards.

                                CATEGORY - INDIAN CITIZENS

                                SUBMISSION: IN PERSON
                                [Cost $23 - in cash, exact change]

                                1. Carry the PoA and ONE copy of the same.
                                2. There is NO need to notarize the copy.
                                3. Carry 2 photographs, passport size.
                                4. Carry ORIGINAL US residency proof - Green Card, Visa, EAD, etc.
                                5. Carry copy of #4 above, notarized.
                                6. Carry ORIGINAL passport.
                                7. Carry COPY of passport, all pages which are NOT blank. No need to notarize passport pages.
                                8. If current passport does not have US residence address, carry ORIGINAL proof of address, preferred: driving license.
                                9. Copy of driving license, both sides, notarized.
                                10. There is NO need to add witnesses to the signatures. You're required to sign the PoA at the counter.

                                11. There is NO need to apostille the PoA. However, many do as it lends credibility to the final document, especially in India. In which case:
                                Below is applicable only when PoA is apostilled
                                12. Complete form in website and attach photograph.
                                13. Notarize just this form. [You are still not required to notarize the copy of the PoA]
                                14. In this case, you'll only submit what's stated in above steps along with 11 and 12. You are NOT required to sign in presence. You are NOT required to have witnesses or witness signatures. As you've apostle the original PoA, principal's and attorney signatures are already completed.
                                15. You'll carry 1 extra photograph as you've used up 1 (see step 3 above) in the form itself.
                                SUBMISSION - VIA POST
                                [Cost $23 - in cashier check/money order/draft. NO personal checks]

                                1. Approximately, it'll take 10 business days or less to return.
                                2. Please follow ALL steps as outlined above, except 10. Instead you'll follow steps 1 to 9 and then 11 to 13.
                                3. Use USPS - use either flat rate priority or priority express to send the documents.
                                4. Inside the flat rate envelope, containing all the document fold and provide another empty flat rate envelope of either priority or priority express. In this empty envelope, ensure to add the return label, pre-fixed.
                                5. With all the documents add the financial instrument for $23.

                                CATEGORY NON-INDIAN CITIZENS

                                SUBMISSION: IN PERSON
                                [Cost $23 - in cash, exact change]

                                1. Carry the APOSTILLED PoA and ONE copy of the same.
                                2. There is NO need to notarize the copy.
                                3. Carry 1 photograph, passport size.
                                4. Carry ORIGINAL Non-Indian Passport
                                5. Carry COPY of passport, all pages which are NOT blank. No need to notarize passport pages.
                                6. If current passport does not have US residence address, carry ORIGINAL proof of address, preferred: driving license.
                                7. Copy of driving license, both sides, notarized.
                                8. There is NO need to add witnesses to the signatures.
                                10. Complete form in website and attach photograph.
                                12. Notarize just this form. [You are still not required to notarize the copy of the PoA]
                                13. Submit at counter - as you've apostle the original PoA, principal's and attorney signatures are already completed.

                                SUBMISSION - VIA POST
                                [Cost $23 - in cashier check/money order/draft. NO personal checks]

                                1. Approximately, it'll take 10 business days or less to return.
                                2. Please follow ALL steps as outlined above.
                                3. Use USPS - use either flat rate priority or priority express to send the documents.
                                4. Inside the flat rate envelope, containing all the document fold and provide another empty flat rate envelope of either priority or priority express. In this empty envelope, ensure to add the return label, pre-fixed.
                                5. With all the documents add the financial instrument for $23.

                                ONLY for "VIA POST"
                                You are allowed to avoid sending the return envelope, pre-paid. In which case attach a second money order/cashier check for $25. In memo state - "for return processing <name of Principal(s)>"

                                POST POA ATTESTATION

                                1. Return PoA to attorney, or carry along with principal(s) if same is travelling to India.
                                2. Embassy can not provide any guidance regarding subsequent steps involved. It varies from state to state, in India.
                                3. It is safe to assume within 30 to 90 days of issuance of attested PoA, the same should be registered in the respective Indian state's regional Registrar office.
                                4. Almost in all States, execution of property dealings thru PoA requires the same to be registered in Registrar's office. This is different from notarization in India.
                                5. In many states, they will request for the presence of the principal(s) as their finger prints are registered/recorded along with their photos. This is where having an apostilled document comes in handy. However, this depends from state to state and may be subjected to actual display of current laws and regulations to the Registrar. Which is why its important to have an Indian Attorney conduct this operation in India, with Registrar.
                                6. Once again - Embassy can not provide ANY guidance or suggestions. Whether a Registrar accepts and records the PoA as-is or requests for presence of the principal(s) is completely arbitrary I have witnessed cases where within the same state, it varies. .

                                Please note - above information is provided as a need-to-know basis and is represented as my personal interpretation with no relevance to Indian Embassy - its procedures/regulations/laws or personnel. Any queries against "post POA" section, will remain unanswered.

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