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Mike- ()     02/03/2006 00:52 AM

GOT IT CP in Italy DV2006

Yes, just 3 weeks ago my wife and me went through the CP in Italy.

In the last 2 years I found this message board very useful and supportive, rich of fantastic people willing to help and encourage each other.

Since I have not posted many message during this time I feel a little bit guilty hence I decided to post my experience hoping it will be of some help for people that is still dreaming for a new life.

I’m Italian and DV2006 was my 8th attempt to win the DV lottery (yes sometime you have to be perseverant).

In the last 6 years I used a law firm to enter my lottery application, is not necessary and I don’t think you have any advantage in doing so, but if you live in a country where the postal service is unreliable you are more comfortable to have an address in USA.

The 14th of June I received an e-mail by the law firm informing me I was one of the GC winner.

After few day they sent me the packet containing NL, forms and instruction. I hired again our lawyer to help us in filling form and to have a check on our documentation.

It was very expensive and not so helpful as I thought in the beginning, but for thing of such importance I need someone that can give me more confidence in the whole process and a reliable address.

We filled forms and started to collect all documentation mentioned in the first packet. Meanwhile I called the consulate in Naples to ask if they need all my documents translated in English or notarized, but apart for my wife’s police and birth certificate (she is German) nor translation or notarization are required. It seem an easy process afterwards, but it has taken a lot of stamina.

I have felt strange sensation during those months excitation, anxiety, fear, frustration, happiness, … well it was like living a whole life in just few months.

For October we were ready but our number EU 0050XX, even if low, was not current.

It is terrible to have a lot of time in front of you with nothing you can do to accelerate the process.

I have rearranged our documentation at least 20 times, checked and rechecked everything almost everyday, called the Consulate in Naples another 5 times, called my lawyer in USA 10 time… and then at the beginning of November we received our second packet telling us that our interview was fixed for the 21st of December (what a beautiful Christmas gift).

As for the first packet there was some incorrect or unclear statement, so I called Naples again.

Photos are to be taken as for the DV Application, not ¾ as mentioned in the instruction and you have to be at the consulate the day before (the 20th in our case) for medical examination.

No one was able to tell me the actual vaccination required. They accept Euro only for medical and Dollars or Euro (they change Euro for Dollars at a fixed rate) for the VISA.

They do no accept credit/debit card for none of the above. Who knows Naples knows is very unsafe to go around with such a lot of money (we had 3,000$ cash with us) and more unsafe is to drive a car there.

So we decided to take a train and to arrive there 2 days before (in Italy you have to anticipate strike!).

We booked an hotel on the seaside promenade where the Consulate is located just 1 mile away from it. The 20th we arrived at the Consulate at 8 o’clock.

There was about 20 people outside the consulate (Consulate in Naples is the only one that give Immigration Visa for Italy, Iran, Iraq, Malta and other middle east countries) and my wife and me were the only for the DV.

At 8:30 the policeman at the gate asked for passport, after about 15 minute they let enter people trough the gate one by one, giving back passports and a number.

At about 9 we were inside.

We had a ****l detector check and the information office at the entrance told us to go right trough a corridor to the room 12.

This is a small open room (no doors) with about 20 chairs with 4 counters on the left side.

After few minutes a very rude Italian woman start to ask for forms calling by number and we were first (our number was 4).

Since it was the day for medical examination I give her the medical forms sent us by KCC in the second packet.

She started yelling that she want the DS-230 and DSP-122 and she has no time ! to loose.

I reply very calm that our DS and DSP were sent to KCC but if she wants I have a copy of originals with me (so even if it is the medical examination day bring everything with you and bring a copy of everything).

She took my forms and asked for two photos for each of us (this was not mentioned in the second packet, the only photos required was 1 for medical examination they asked me afterwards).

I handed her our photos (I had about 6 photos for each of us) and waited. After about 30 min our number was called at the counter, they give me back my form copies (they are not necessary for DV applicant but it was not known by the mean Italian woman) and the photos submitted to the KCC with the DS forms.

Then they asked me to wait for the Counsellor to take our fingerprint. Back to seat we waited another 5 min and our number was called again.

The young man at the counter took our fingerprint and asked us to go to the upper floor for the medical examination, he also told u! s, while already there, we can pay the visa fees so we don’t have to d o it the day after.

On the upper floor we waited just a couple of minute in the corridor then we was asked to enter in a room.

There Italian Doctors collected our medical forms, a photo and evidence of vaccination.

The only vaccinations required for Italian people are MMS (2 shots) and Tetanus. We had to take our second shot of MMS.

We paid about 400 Euro for medical examination and vaccination, then they made us chest X-Ray.

Back in corridor, after few minutes they called us in another room where we had our blood test, back in corridor we waited for about 30 min so I went to pay to the cashier the visa fees (755.00 $ for each of us, they give you a receipt to be presented the day after at the interview).

Afterwards we had our medical examination (eye test and palpation). We waited again in corridor until they called to give us shots for MMR. At about 12:00 they gave us our chest x-ray and a sheet as a proof of our vaccination.

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Anil- ()     01/12/2006 21:54 PM

Do not use WWICS...They just take your money

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HSR- ()     01/12/2006 00:51 AM

First of all, I would like to thank those who helped me out on this board when I had questions about documents for CP.

I had the visa interview today at American Embassy in Tokyo, Japan, and successfully passed it! The interview itself was very very short and the consular officer didn't ask me anything specific. She asked me a couple of basic things like what I am doing in the states (I am a PhD student with F-1) and what my future plan will be.

She even congratulated me on winning the lottery! (At some point I was kind of nervous about getting asked how many times I have applied for the lottery because I know you cannot have any intention to immigrate if you are staying in the states with F-1. So when she said "Congratulations! Everything will become easier for you, huh?," I felt very relieved).

And then she quickly said that everything looks perfect and will issue a visa. I still have to wait for my passport and visa to be delivered by mail, which will take probably a day or two, but I feel really relieved!


1. I am a graduate student with F-1 visa in a PhD program.

2. My case number is AS28XX.

3. Since I don't have any friend whom I can ask to write an affidavit of support, I collected all I have as financial evidence. It can be summed up to $43,200 ($20,000 in my saving account, $15,000 in my pension plan, stocks of current value of $5000, $3200 in my checking account in the states.)

4. I prepared all the tax documents, since I have been working as a teaching assistant at my university, but she never asked me to show them.

5. My POE will be Chicago/O'Hare and I am currently planning to go back to the states in three days if I can receive my passport with the visa (I have to start grading my students' papers!!)

Again, thank you so much for your help and good luck to everyone!


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Karim- ()     01/04/2006 00:53 AM

May 2005 Recieved first package. Contact KCC couple times via email, they replayed slowly. Read and write the form carefully. Sent back the form using UPS after 1 week.

Nov 2005 Received second package, schedule for interview 27 dec (6 weeks to go) Week 1 - Get police certificate at POLDA (Jakarta HQ), only takes half days because my father knew some police PC cost about 60,000 rupiah or about 6 USD. I think will takes more times and money if you don’t know anybody there.

Get medical check-up form from US embassy. First contact with embassy

You don’t need to queue with other visa applicant because immigrant visa applicant can go inside directly but sometimes the guards don’t understand that. Just be proactive by ask around except you have plenty times to hang around embasy. I don’t know why they don’t send the form with second package, I think its waste of time just to get the form.

I went to one of chosen physician. Its child physician (what it called in English?), so I waited together with moms and children’s, quite strange Everything ok, cost me 200,000 rupiah / 20 USD. I went to lab for blood test at same days, cost about 110,000 rupiah / 11 USD. Both results send directly to embassy.

Now about public charges, I read at forums about avidavit of support and asset amount. I try to get avidavit of support to my friend but not success because the form ask many personal matter. Then I have to go with personal asset. Luckily my savings used for family saving so I have total about 16,000 USD in my asset (from savings and mutual funds) even though its not all my money. I went to banks (3 banks) to get bank reference, cost me 50,000 rupiah / 5 USD each. Its takes 1 week to complete so be prepare.

Dec 20 Everything is complete then I go to embassy for document screening on 20 dec. The lady checks all documents and takes everything except original docs. She ask me for address at US to send plastic greencard, I give her my friend address. She said must have address in US, so you need to be prepare. Then she told me to come for interview on 22 dec. (sooner... great!)

Dec 22 Then the day has come... I wake up at 3:30 (excited) then get ready. Arrive at embassy at 7:30 but stopped by guard in front street. He asking me to queue with others, I told him I came for immigrant visa but he dont care. Quite upset that time because my interview is at 8:00. I join in behind of queue for while then when other guard pass by I ask him. This time he asks me to wait but in front of queqe. After while again I ask other guard (senior one) then he let me pass directly. Now come to front gate, there are some queqe too to get inside the gate. I go directly to guard then tell him I come for immigrant interview. He let me pass the gate directly. Inside gate I need to pass another security to come inside. I ask the guard there but he insists me to join the queue. This time no luck, I need to queue together with other. Its takes about 45 minutes just to get inside. I finally got inside at 8:30, already many people inside. Lots of wait now, wait about 30 min then hand over my docs, Wait again about 45 min then pay the fee. Wait about 30 min then give the receipt. Then wait (like forever) to call for interview. Finally at 10:30 I got call to counter 1. The interviewer was speaking in Indonesia language even I speak in English. He ask simple question like how many times I enter DV, when I will go to US, My current job, What kind of software I develop (I am an IT consultant). Then finally he said everything done and I can pick my passport at 28 Dec. Enjoy your trip to California he said which I replay with big smile

Dec 28 I week later I came to get my passport. They give my package that can't open and my passport with immigrant visa. Now I am ready to go dreamland

I plan to go on March/April to california.

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David- ()     12/23/2005 00:54 AM

Hi everyone,

My spouse & I just completed our CP in Sydney successfully on 21st Dec.
We have been working in the US since 2001 on H1-B visas. We arrived from the US 10 days before our interview date. We scheduled our medical 2 days after we arrived with Dr Millar. The medical was very straightforward. Chest X-rays, blood tests etc as per previous postings. We had immunization records & taken blood tests in the US to show antibody levels as a proof of vaccinations.

We arrived at the consulate on a clear sunny summer morning at 7am. We felt confident that we had all the appropriate documents but decided not to be disappointed if we didn¡¦t get the visa because life is great in Sydney as well. Boston in winter is no comparison to Sydney in summer ƒº and we felt fortunate that we live in a great country like Australia.

We were the first to arrive at the MLC center lobby. Based on previous postings we were dressed in suits but we saw that noone else was dressed up. We waited for the lift to work until 740 am. By then several people with various visa appts had gathered at the entrance. We went to the 10th floor completed the security check up & were asked to go to the 59th floor. We were the first to take the immigration visa number for the day.

The immig visa counter opened at 805 am and our ticket number showed up on the screen. We went up to the counter with 3 folders- one with all the documents arranged as per the instructions from the Sydney consulate, the second & third folders had extra documents such as our social security cards, house deed, payslips, supporting documentation for all US visas we had held to date etc.

An Australian lady examined our documents carefully & ticked the checklist. She instructed one of us to pay the visa fees (Apprx $1900 AUD) at the cashiers counter as she continued to check our documents. Sometimes Amex may not work so be sure to take either a visa or master card with you as well.
I returned from paying me the fees and she was still checking our documents. First she checked my documents since I was the primary & then my spouses¡¦.

She asked questions like Are you a part of a terrorist organizations, have you served in military, have you been married before, do you have any children of your own, when do you plan to go to the US (early Jan). We replied no to most of the questions. She checked our bank statements thoroughly.

She kept the originals of the letters from our employers, copies of all other documents and returned all our originals including all our old passports. She told us that everything seems to be in order & told us to tale a seat until we were ! called up for the next interview. This first interview took about 25 minutes.

We waited for 5 minutes and were called to a different counter where we met an American guy. He took our both index finger prints. He asked both of us to raise our left hand and swear that we were telling the truth. He also asked us to sign a form. He asked me what my profession was. I replied consulting. He asked what sort of consulting, I replied business.

We asked what my highest level of education was, I replied MBA. He said that we had 2 options ¡V we could pick up the visas next day or we could have them mailed to us.

We chose to pick them up the next day. He said that our H1-B visas are being cancelled and gave us a form that allowed us to return next day to pick up the visa.

We also requested him to cancel our H1-B appointments that we had the next day and he said that he would take care of that. He also advised us to allow 2 hours for the immigration process at the POE (for us LA)
Next day we went and picked up our passports with the immigrant visas. Overall if you have your documents in order it should be a pretty straightforward process.

I want to thank Wikas, Curious, kji, George, Steven and all other members of this board who helped me understand the process and keep my paperwork in order.

I think the DV lottery is a great opportunity for living & working in US.

Other options like the employment visa take immense amount of time to come through.

Good Luck to everyone else who is going through the process & especially for other OC winners I would say keep a good perspective around this process.
Merry Xmas & Happy New Year OC winner

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Irish_Indian- ()     12/19/2005 00:43 AM

I was on a H1B visa in US. I am native Irish. But my last country of stay was India. As we were in US we decided to do AOS. But after looking at numbers for October and November, decided to switch from AOS to CP.
KCC told I can goto Ireland or India. If I decide to goto India, I need to prove my residency there. So I decided to go to Dublin, Ireland for CP.
My interview was scheduled for 9th Feb. I got my medical done in Dublin on 6th Feb. I learnt later on that I could have completed my medical in US and that would have been okay. And would have saved the fees as I have insurance in US.

Anyways, reached to Embassy as scheduled on 9th and came to know that my interview was preponded by embassy ! They called my cell in US for the same before 2 days but as I was not in US, I did not check the voicemail and missed the date. But they were kind enogh to give me another appointment next day. They also told that technically I should have gone to India as my last stay before US was in India.

They asked for following docs.
1. Notification letter from KCC and Visa Appointment Letter from Embassy
2. Passport
3. 1 Photo
4. Medical
5. Fees (755.00 USD each in cash)
6. Proof that I qualify (12th, BS and MS all degree certificates)
7. Proof of valid status in US (All prior I 797)
8. Proof of Financial (Experience Letter from current employer, Summary letter of all my Bank accounts, Letter from Banks)
9. PCC
10. Full form Birth Certificate (should include complete name of parents)
11. Marriage Certificate

I also took following docs which were not presented.
1. Social Security Card
2. All W2s, 12 months Paystubs, 12 months Bank statements
3. Old Passports
4. Experience Letters from prior employers
5. Evaluation of MS in India as MS in US
6. Evidence of Relationship with Spouse (1. Photo album of wedding & togather in US 2. Lease agreement for apartment)
7. Birth certificate of my daughter who is born in US

I took 1 copy of all documents above, they asked for copy whenever they needed. First they asked for my docs and then for my spouse. So I had prepared 2 folders as below for me and 2 for spouse

1. Documents that they asked for in the appointment letter along with a copy 2. Extra supporting documents without any copies as they did not ask for them !

After waiting for 30 mins, I was called for interview.
I had to take oath, everything in the forms (DS 122 and DSP 230) is correct. I was fingerprinted.
And then I was asked following questions.
1. How long you lived in Ireland?
2. How long your parents lived in Ireland? Why & When did they move to India?
3. Where do you live in US?
4. Where do you work?
5. When did you apply for the DV lottery?
6. How many applications did you have for DV this year? 2(one for me as primary other for my spouse as primary)

My husband was asked following questions.
1. Where do you work?
2. How many employees are there in your company?
3. Why your employer, residence and job location are different? Answer - consulting in IT
Thats it. We were told to sign on back of 230 - Part 2. And got the stamped visa and yellow package for immigration officer in an hour.

At last, we were relived and came out of all tensions.

We had a return flight after 3 days. Surprisingly our Immigration check was done in Ireland before boarding the flight, by US Customs. Again, we had to do fingerprint and our passport was stamped. After reaching Newark, we did not have to go via Immigration check ! Directly went for customs !!

Interview Tip: Contact Embassy for whatever questions you have. On the board someone said chained folders, stapler, stroller... is not allowed. But with Irish Embassy we could have taken all of them. So it is better to contact them rather then relying only on message board !
I wish you all best of luck.

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Aj- ()     12/06/2005 09:15 AM

Hi i am lookin for a reliable immigration consultant to move to canada ..plz help

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faheem- ()     12/03/2005 00:22 AM

If any one know about the Administrative Processing, please let me know how long it will be take time to completed. because Since i am waiting for a long time (over six month now) to complete this process and call from U.S. consulate chennai.if any one know about this process plz let me know.thank you.

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Sanjay Bhatnagar- ()     12/02/2005 11:12 AM

Anyone who has the misfortune to transact with this consulate via mail or phone must absolutely plan & act well in advance since once the application is sent in, then all you can do is sit & wait.

The two telephone numbers provided for consulate inquiry are always busy. If you are lucky enough to connect then it goes into voicemail or better still it encourages you to hold & says "we'll be right back shortly". After 2 hours being on hold the call is simply disconnected. Indian bureaucrats certainly know how to deal with stubborn (paying) customers who demand service.

Also, check out the definition of India as printed on the application for PIO (Person of Indian Origin) card as resproduced below:

Expression ‘India’ as given in sub-section (1) of the section 311 of the Government of India act, 1935 means British India together with all territories of any Indian ruler under the suzerainty of His Majesty, all territories under the suzerainty of such an Indian ruler, the tribal areas, and any other territories which His Majesty in Council may, from time to time, After ascertaining the views of the federal Government and the Federal legislature, declare to be part of India.

Above form is actually posted on the Consulate General of India - Houston website. Check it out for yourself (on page 2):


You may need to cut/paste above URL into your browser.

Sanjay Bhatnagar.

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Naresh Bhandari- ()     11/30/2005 06:09 AM

I do not completly agree with all of you guys. Generaly when we think about Immigration from a professional company we think that everything wouldbe done with in 12 months the complete process but this is not the exact time for immigration. Whenever you think about immigration you should know that for Canada it would take FOUR FIVE years and Atleast one year for Australia . These guys are also proceeding the case through High comision which generaly takes 4-5 years for the complete process.
I applied for Immigration in the year 2001 and finally got my landing papers 2 months back. Now i am in Canada and enjoying far better than India.
About their services those were also good. I got a job in local call centre with in 15 days of landing in Canada.
So change your misconception about WWICS i mean this company has very good formats and that could help your case processing faster than applying on our own.

it is realy very nice to share my good experiance with all you guys.

Naresh Bhandari

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